JonKramer, CIS-HET @JonKramer@social.cleverlibre.org

@Mary625 @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963, the common element isn't guns. Women have equal access and yet rarely commit atrocities. The common element is, almost without doubt, young male conservatives. Take guns away, and the issue still exists. We are just sweeping the problem under the rug. Passing the buck to the next generation. Please demand that any representative you will vote for requires that the CDC study this issue as a matter of public health. I suspect the problem is more than just young conservative males, but without objective research, which should have been done decades ago, all our responses will be knee jerk.

@Mary625 @NaturaArtisMagistra @CStamp @StillIRise1963 mastodon is not showing me which post of mine you are questioning. So I am unable to clarify whichever post you questioned. I apologize, I am not dodging your query.

@ecmclaughlin love this. But what kind of monster has free space on her bookshelves? Declutering has limits!! :)

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 there are so many better ways, human ways, to have power and control. No one is perfect, but look at Jimmy Carter, or even Gerald Ford. Or Bernie Sanders. You don't need to be a monster. This is a choice those old men make. And, to be fair, there are Margaret Thatchers and Imelda Marcos type women doing the same thing... but that's far more rare.

@NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 @Curiouscat@postpandemicparty.org thank you for your service. Not your military service, but your service to humanity calling your congress woman and taking an active part. We need millions more like you. And less veterans...

I would like to suggest she vote for the CDC actively investing gun violence as a public heath issue. I will no longer vote for anyone who doesn't support this.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 I thought about speculating on that, because you are obviously correct. I suspect it is behavior they learned young. But I'm honestly not sure. I think that topic is best left to a doctoral dissertation in psychology. I just don't know why the elderly politicians turn out like they do.

@Curiouscat@postpandemicparty.org @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 I was military, armament. 45KM5 if that means anything. I am way too familiar with weapons. An AR 15 is not a weapon I would carry into battle. No army in the world would. And no army does. Looking like, the style of the weapon, doesn't make it a military weapon.

If you have questions, I am far from an expert, but I do know more than 99% of the population on the subject of hardware.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 agreed. Strongly. We should be imprisoning the ones who violate their oaths by lying. But I suggest it should go further. Imprison the county clerk who lies on the job. The cop who lies. ANY public employee.

I would note that many of the worst abusers are, once again, young conservative males.

@Curiouscat@postpandemicparty.org @StillIRise1963 @NaturaArtisMagistra

The key word is "style". I don't believe it possible to reasonably regulate style. I would be open to any style based regulations, if they can be shown to be effective.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 we should stop those right now. Schools are the safest place in America for kids. But we are teaching everyone they are the least safe. As far as I know, sports related deaths are still the number one killer on school grounds, but as we switch from football to soccer, that seems to be changing.

We are masters of ignoring the planks in our eyes, and focusing on the splinters. I honestly don't know what to do about this, although I suggest a constitutional amendment requiring all government employees tell the absolute truth while receiving government salaries would be a good 1st step.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 and yes, there are victims who are not part of criminal enterprise. Obviously. You will never get me to say differently. But that is a minority.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 I really can't count suicides as numbers in gun violence. Until recently, Japan had a higher suicide rate than the murder and suicide rates in the USA, combined. And no guns. Guns don't seem to change suicide rates in a population. This is something I really have no understanding of, suicide. My attitude is that the best revenge is living a long good life...

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 the Swiss have actual machine guns in every household. And yet don't seem to go nuts shooting each other... as someone else pointed out, education is a factor. But I think their conservative population is just small enough that they stay down.

My theory, at least.

@NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 I'm a libertarian communist, and fully agree with what Karl Marx said about gun control.

@OldAndCranky @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 having once been one, I don't think your proposal unreasonable. 😉

@NaturaArtisMagistra @CStamp @StillIRise1963 agreed, although the vast majority of people shot and killed are involved in criminal activities.

@CStamp @NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 An AR isn't a machine-gun. Nor is it powerful enough to be your go-to weapon in the Canadian north, even it it was a machine-gun. Probably good enough to keep you fed though. That same .223 round is in many small hunting weapons. The .223 is not used in any military though.

@NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 as for education, there are many uneducated women who don't go on shooting/killing sprees. Although I feel education can be an indicator, the problem is conservative men, world wide.

@NaturaArtisMagistra @StillIRise1963 I will never choose rights or privileges based on a lack of need. I don't need a car. I don't need the model boats my uncle gave me. I don't need a private library. "Need", when mentioned, raises my hackles. I don't trust how that word is used in an argument.