Dan Bricklin @danb@social.cleverlibre.org

Oh, and all of it cost a few thousand dollars at least, in 1979 dollars, with a 40x25 character-only screen.

The original Apple II required execs to use a keyboard like a (usually female) secretary, have a Sony TV on the desk, and a rainbow ribbon cable. How dorky! With s/w like spreadsheets they outdid their coworkers. Wait for killer apps for #VisionPro. It's worthy of them.

(What I mean by "gesture experience" is thinking how to add use of gestures as part of the UI for productivity apps. Some of us did that for apps for GO's PenApps and MS PenWindows. Probably most of the original people at MS who did that are no longer there, though.)

Microsoft has been working on AR for years. Did they stop hardware and OS work after talking to Apple about #VisionPro, but continue all the Office, etc., software work? Microsoft reportedly made more (after costs) on each original Mac selling software (MultiPlan, Word, etc.) than Apple did the hardware. They have gesture experience from the Pen Windows days.

@_Davidsmith As I asked and partially answered in this toot: https://qoto.org/@danb/110505148037732448 , what is #VisonPro much better at than laptops/phones, etc? The answer helps you then figure out which types of applications it's better for, and then for which apps now might be a good time to build/rethink.

@gallaugher I haven't been out to much since COVID, but #MassTLC has a variety and is adding more. Also, follow @scottkirsner

@_Davidsmith Did you get to try any widgets? How about widgets with input? Does it feel like enough space to have lots of them always around?

Another good #VisionPro experience write-up: https://daringfireball.net/2023/06/first_impressions_of_vision_pro_and_visionos

It seems that Apple is "over the bar" on a variety of important "must haves". (One is the consistent "no nausea" reports, including from multiple females. Another is affordable for enough developers.) Maybe they finally got there so it's time to release to developers to innovate.

@ednl @ossa I guess that while the ear speakers are probably somewhat directional, sound may leak out as you surmise. Perhaps when you want more privacy you can switch to AirPods. (As a user of hearing aids, I'm happy that they went to an external speaker instead of earbuds or earphones.)

Thinking how Apple #VisionPro with no handheld controllers and highly crafted use of eyes/fingers mirrors the original iPhone vs. smartphones with keyboards. Also running full "desktop" browser vs stripped-down "mobile" ones.

@mikesax We'll see. For visually-orient people, organizing by space in 3D is very powerful. (You should see all of the piles around my desk and office...) For other, it may not. Sound and visual changes in your peripheral vision can help with navigating through multi-taking.

@mikesax I quite agree. A few years ago when I tried an AR system, as I recall, I saw how 3D charts were much better to comprehend when you could move it and you.

@mikesax Yes! Apple mentioned that, I think, how conferencing uses the 3D sound. Could add sounds to actions with 3D as we work together.

@mikesax Eye tracking could do that, but, for good privacy reasons, Apple is currently not giving any eye-tracking info to the app. It only gives the location of the gesture done there. (Though could be long gaze if enabled by user in Accessibility). We'll see how closed they keep this over time.