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@chris while I wouldnt say "everyone" I do agree that it is most people for sure.

@hansw@mastodon.social

Yea as long as he isnt using it to programmatically manipulate the json or anything it should be ok just for pretty rendering. But I feel like he wants more than just prettifying the json.

@design_RG @cy @Gargron @olamundo

@hansw@mastodon.social

jq is a ncie tool too for manipulating it and reorganizing it in various ways. Though Rob isnt really a programmer so some of these tools might be asking a bit much of him.

@design_RG @cy @Gargron @olamundo

@461

Im not even sure why the servers would even need to know about it at all to be honest.. let alone be a part of activity pub.. for example it could just call GPG whenever I try to make a post from my computer and ask it to sign the content of the post. The signature would just be attached as metadata. the usual server approach to signing would remain intact and uneffected.. When a client sees and gets your post if they too have the relevant feature then it would see the signature and verify it.

All this would manifest as some osrt of a check mark or other marking indicating when a post is signed and verified vs not. The signing process could therefore be completely automated.

@lanodan @thatbrickster @moth @cy

@461

In this example is A and B servers and x is the source users public key and y is the destination users public key?

@lanodan @thatbrickster @moth @cy

@Gargron Thats me :) Anyway thanks for the info. good job on the improvements too, thanks for that.

Not sure if you heard about or checked out our group server and other new features. Feel free to check them out if they interest you and feel free to pull in any features you want.

@461

Yea but a key signing something doesnt require manual user intervention if the client is written such as not to need it. So I'm not sure why thats a burden.

@lanodan @thatbrickster @moth @cy

@Gargron Fair, I mean, its the design i would go with on those grounds alone. It was good call.

Was really just wondering if you saw any noticable impact to M/S resource consumption as a result. But I guess not?

@thatbrickster

Mastodon is already keybase compatible (I suspect you may know that).. I use it myself. It has some limited use here in the sense that if your account is compromised you can revoke the verification of it. The problem is people cant retroactively figure out when that revocation took place so it can be hard to do forensics to figure out the point where messages were no longer officially associated with the person.

@cy @461 @lanodan

@Gargron Why is that? I Wouldn't have thought 1 connection vs 5 connections would make much impact, even on a mobile device. Though I am just speculating.

@461

As far as I know Eugene doesnt develop ActivityPub, he only consumes it. I think its Webber you'd have to talk about to isee if any such changes for AP is a possibility (probably not if it isnt backwards compatible I'd think).

@lanodan @thatbrickster @cy

@461

Would it though? If the model allows for "anything" then presumably it includes the option (though not requirement) of personal key use. So not sure why the protocol would have to be reworked to **only** allow for that (or how it could be enforced as a standard even or what functional changes it might imply to do so)...

Its just thatfor servers that allow users to use their own key, and users that adopt it, then I can trust them. On servers where they dont do this or users dont employ it I would just trust those account's identity less so.

@lanodan @thatbrickster @cy

@461

That question sounds like it implies it would take effort. Presumably if the client were written correctly it would just need to be be configured once and then every post would get signed automatically.

@lanodan @thatbrickster @cy

@design_RG Hey by the way, how has life been treating you in general.. You doing good with staying happy and healthy (mentally and physically)? Family ok and all?

@Gargron for a lot of users that sounds like an improvement.. Though it would take a lot of connections to have much of an effect.

Do you see a performance increase on M.S?

@design_RG

Pretty printing JSON is easy if that's all you want. I guess it depends how far you take it though. If you want a pretty html interface and rendering of markdown in the toot contents and other bells and whistles it becomes a bit more involved, but doable.

Honestly in some ways it might be just as easy to build an importer than it would a viewer, again depending on the feature set of the viewer.

I've had several users in recent days particularly say they would want to mOVe to qoto if they could take their toots with them.

The issue I see with an importer is just one really, that is, a person could abuse it to create post-dated fake toots. The importer would effectively add the ability to create toots with any date timestamp you want.

The other issue is preserving the threads on the toots, this seems like it could be impossible.. Other users replied to your post at another account. You cant change their post to point to your copied toot at the new account. So while importing all your toplevel toots is doable you couldn't really do anything to effectively import the thread of replies attached to it. Even if you only imported your own replies to your own threads they would mostly be hanging replies since the parent comments would be missing.

Is bugzilla even ActivityPub? I would imagine the only way importable toots would be possible at all is if it didn't use the activity pub standard at all. In which case I'd wonder how they safely handle these concerns.

@cy @Gargron @olamundo

@design_RG
Importing toots is something ive wanted to add to qoyos feature list. This may be a good reason to focus on that.

I should also point out promising not to behave in this was is also what free speech instances are all about.

@cy @admin @Gargron @olamundo

If someone has an issue with someone else being gay its a good indication they are going to be a hypocrite in most everything else.

My friend, a democrat just referred to democrats celebrating the Biden election win as "They are like vegans throwing a parade for the new Arby’s opening" and it is perfect.

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