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@veer66 Out of the box, im not really sure if vulkan is supported by those projects, youd have to check with the respective projects. But could you code it in, sure, but youd be using "Vulkan Compute" not plain old "vulkan", same software and all its just the compute part isnt as well documented and the vast majority of people use it for graphics not compute.

With that said it may not be a better choice than OpenCL, while it can be used and isnt a bad platform and everything, each have their strengths and one may want to pick one over the other vor various reasons, most notable the fundamentally different paradigms they each employ.

but yes it does do GPGPU and not just graphics.

@veer66 Out of the box or are you suggesting you want to rewrite the source code (or add to it) for those projects to add vulkan support?

@veer66 Hi Project maintainer of Aparapi here... Depends, what are you trying to do exactly?

@icedquinn Ahh thats a slightly different argument than I thought you meant.

It is entierly valid to say that our personal day to day direct contribution to the problem is rather minimal. Absolutely the big problem is industrial and commercial.. for example shipping over seas, and airports are both commercial entities and are a much bigger chunk of the problem than the car you drive or leaving a light on... so yea on that we agree.

I guess my point is two fold

1) someone with a small footprint probably isnt helping sure, but being vocal about it could help drive legal changes that reduce corporate pollution.

2) Generally, unless its a company that has the government as a client, corperations are doing things that result in pollution specifically as a result of our individual choices, they arent disconnected. In simplistic terms, the companies that pollute are getting the money to operate (and thus pollute) from us, as customers, either directly or indirectly. If boats shipping containers is causing major pollution, more so than someone driving an SUV... well those boats are still shipping the crap we ordered from china, so it doesnt allow us to be blameless. We have a symbiotic/parasitic relationship with companies in a way.

@icedquinn ahh ok I get that now... I mean.. to be fair I'd prefer that over the opposite.. like if you actually have a very small footprint and talk about the problema nd encourage others to emulate you, that is more respectable in my eyes than someone driving an SUV to a global warming protest :)

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Yea with modern computers using an 4096 asymmetric key on any reasonable amount of data is not a problem at all. Though keep in mind if you were encrypting directly off the asymmetric keys for chat it is not the most secure approach, nor the most efficient, you can still use the asymmetric keys but you should be using them a type of key exchange generally referred to as "Perfect forward security" or just "forward security".. for example specifically the Diffie-hellman algorithm.

From the user perspective you appear to still be using your asymmetric keys, and those are where it tarts, but no actual encryption takes place using the asymmetric keys directly. In short it has all the speed of symmetric encryption, the convenience of asymmetric encryption, and is, in fact, more secure than either of these options directly

Anyway with that said on to trust levels... They are kind of an open problem, and it was the intent of keybase to address it. The problem is while you can decide who you trust if you wish to infer trust via friend-of-a-friend it can be rather unreliable and breaks down very quickly more than one degree out. Afterall you dont really know how rigorous any one person in the chain was, or if someone is compromised. Keybase hoped to link your keys to your public facing identity so as to make the process of identifying someone as who they claim to be (which is the hard step to do when it comes to assigning a trust level reliably).

But yea if you could find a good way to calculate trust levels of FoaF, and generally the trust levels set are reliable, then I could see this being very useful for any sort of interaction that requires cryptographic trust. As I think I said this is somewhat of an open problem in general.

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@icedquinn Yes I know, but i read it as as "our" not "your"

I was asking if you were being sarcastic about their (whoever your is ) footprint being small? thats how I take it.

@icedquinn so i read that wrong as "when out own pollution footprint"

on reread I assume you were being sarcastic?

@icedquinn who is "our"?

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I refuse to do anything even remotely responsible until the weekend is over.. not bathing, brushing my teeth, all foor will come from greesy dirty resteraunts, hell Im not even going to take a shit till monday morning, gotta save the pooping for business hours so I'm getting paid to do it.

In fact my goal is from midnight on friday to be in bed and not to leave it once until monday. If I can help it I'm gonna try not to roll over either, just to make sure i dont burn the extra 10 calories.

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@stux Now I feel like smoking a blunt and watching cat videos for 6 hours while eating chinese food...

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