🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@iankenway

Very much agree, both are extemely powerful poems/literature. I hope you do and if you happen to record it please share with me after!

@Science

@stux

Hahaha, I'd have the alarms blaring and a full all hands on deck meeting going before the end of the day.. .trust me you wont be bored in the least :)

@work

@namark

Deal!

@histoire

@stux

Give me your number, ill call and complain about whatever it is you guys do there and ask to speak to a manager, spice things up a bit for ya!

@work

@icedquinn Well glad you are feeling productive then!

@icedquinn havent messed with salt yet.

Kerberos is ok, but i find the syntax of its files, particularly since it is proprietary, to be kunky, and integration with more standard formats are limited at best. I use Swarm myself for a similar purpose.

In fact all the QOTO servers are running on swarm.

@hansw I doi love it when your all set for a long haul of work (or even just a few hours) then suddenly find out you can everything you want in a few minutes... It doesnt happen often in programming so live it up :)

@icedquinn Ahh so sharing configs to multiple computers.. ok yea thats a very different use case than I envisions. BTRFS isnt likely to be so helpful there.. yea I'd say ansible and/or chef are your two top options then

@icedquinn May not be what you are looking for but is this really just for backup so you can restore to a point? If so maybe consider incremental backup. I use BTRFS for filling that need. My main drives are all ultra high speed raided NVMe drives and then i have one slow but very large (12TB) spinning metal hard drive also running BTRFS that I backup to.. Makes restoring to a point or just restoring individual files trivial and backups take up minimal resources.

Of all the solutions I've tried, including ones specific to my configuration directories (like git) this has turned out to be the least painful.

@namark

I would but then he might spend another hour arguing with me about what its real weight is. Its a no win situation.

@histoire

@Science

Know then thyself, presume not God to scan,
The proper study of mankind is man.
Plac'd on this isthmus of a middle state,
A being darkly wise, and rudely great:
With too much knowledge for the sceptic side,
With too much weakness for the Stoic's pride,
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or beast;
In doubt his mind or body to prefer;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Alike in ignorance, his reason such,
Whether he thinks too little or too much:
Chaos of thought and passion, all confus'd;
Still by himself abus'd or disabus'd;
Created half to rise, and half to fall;
Great lord of all things, yet a prey to all;
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd:
The glory, jest, and riddle of the world!

Go, wondrous creature! mount where science guides,
Go, measure earth, weigh air, and state the tides;
Instruct the planets in what orbs to run,
Correct old time, and regulate the sun;
Go, soar with Plato to th' empyreal sphere,
To the first good, first perfect, and first fair;
Or tread the mazy round his follow'rs trod
And quitting sense call imitating God;
As eastern priests in giddy circles run,
And turn their heads to imitate the sun.
Go, teach eternal wisdom how to rule-
Then drop into thyself, and be a fool!

Superior beings, when of late they saw
A mortal man unfold all nature's law,
Admir'd such wisdom in an earthly shape,
And shew'd a Newton as we shew an ape.

Could he, whose rules the rapid comet bind,
Describe or fix one movement of his mind?
Who saw its fires here rise, and there descend,
Explain his own beginning, or his end;
Alas what wonder! man's superior part
Uncheck'd may rise, and climb from art to art;
But when his own great work is but begun,
What reason weaves, by passion is undone.

Trace science then, with modesty thy guide;
First strip off all her equipage of pride;
Deduct what is but vanity or dress,
Or learning's luxury, or idleness;
Or tricks to shew the stretch of human brain,
Mere curious pleasure, or ingenious pain;
Expunge the whole, or lop th' excrescent parts
Of all our vices have created arts;
Then see how little the remaining sum,
Which serv'd the past, and must the times to come!

Alexander Pope, An Essay on Man, Epistle 2:

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What a piece of work is a man, How noble in
Reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving
how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel!
in apprehension how like a god, the beauty of the
world, the paragon of animals. and yet to me, what is
this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no,
nor Woman neither; though by your smiling you seeme
to say so
-- Shakespeare, The Tragedy of Hamlet (Act II, Scene II)

#Shakespear #Literature #English #Quote #Quotes #Poetry #Poem

@BunnyHearted

I actually had untagged you from the thread not to bombard you with replies. If you are interested I said something similar to what you said int he continuation of the thread here: https://qoto.org/@freemo/105345936170126777

@L29Ah

@se7en

Ahh I missed that. Good reference!

@BunnyHearted @conatus @L29Ah @bouncinglime

@L29Ah

> The text contained in the picture haven't implied any of that.

Actually it does. It is a famous and well known quote by Mrs. Guin as attributed at the bottom. She was a well known fantasy writer and as such it is clearly implied by both that and the fact that the drawing shows a woman reading a book with her imaginings of fantasy just above her head. so all the indicators are there.

Now it is fair, and I do accept when you say that despite the post clearly being suggestive of fantasy books that you may have missed that fact. With that said, that is exactly the reason why polite inquisitive discourse is so important. You never bothered to give the chance for the OP to explain their point of view or what the post was intended to mean. You assumed what it meant, incorrectly, and then accused the OP's post as being a pompus concession based on a complete lack of trying to engage constructively first.

Don't be so quick to jump in and tell people off for ideas you dont agree with. Be patient, be considerate, and most importantly give people enough benefit of the doubt to ask questions and **understand** a persons opinions before bothering to berate them.

Do you recognize how you were in the wrong now that this has been pointed out?

> Also, probably i don't even get what does it mean to use "fantasy literature ... to better cope with reality", as even if it works, it seems like an unnecessarily convoluted way to relax, stemming from self-deception and desire to keep being ignorant of one's own functioning that prevents one to relax without elaborate symbolic structures to explore.

This seems to just pile on all the character flaws that originally caused me to reach out to you in the first place... Are you really sitting here judging people as "convoluted" and "self-deceiving" and "ignorant of one's own functioning" simply because they choose to read fiction in their off time to relax. Do you realize how beyond unhealthy and judgmental it sounds that you are going to write off people in some pretty exaggerated ways simply for enjoying reading fiction books?

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me you never relaxed, enjoyed, and found rewarding a TV show or book that was fiction. So you either never read at all, or only read textbooks and only watch documentaries?

Honestly it sounds like you made a mistake, a very obvious one and instead of bothering to see why and trying to own up to it and become a better person you are going to double down on it and instead just insult or get defensive even more so than before... again, the benefit of the doubt I gave you earlier is starting to wear thin...

> I am virtually always confrontational when i do communicate. There's no factual information transfer when you agree, and i'm not much into such kinds of social status acquisition.

The issue is **not** that you disagreed, that is fine, and welcome. The issue is that you were insulting and rude in how you presented your disagreement, and you did so out of ignorance without bothering to understand your own fallibility or seeing to understand something you disagree with before disagreeing with it, made worse by the fact that your disagreement was bombastic rather than constructive in its presentation.

Even now as I point out how you were ignorant, misinterpreted and were incorrect (you already recognized the ignorance of the context of the original statement), I see no signs of self reflection or any desire to learn from those mistakes.

> Gladly i don't need any issues to get resolved. This is an internet discussion i've commented in, not a public policy committee i have a stake in.

No you certainly dont. but our rules clearly state that we have an expectation of our users to interact with others maturely and in good will. You do not appear to be doing that. Typically people are mature enough to recognize that when someone points it out to them, you do not seem to be one of those people.

Thank you for your responses here. They have been **added to the report** and any additional comments you make will likewise be appended to the report with a link to this conversation. So feel free to add any final comments. In the meantime **due to being unable to reach a resolution the moderators will review and discuss this report, as well as your responses, and decide what the next steps will be**.

Thank you for your time, you will be notified of the results of that discussion.

@bouncinglime

@se7en

Against the grain isnt an issue, we tend to give a lot of slack if someone has an opinion, presents it in a reasonably respectful way, but it simply isnt popular. As of yet no decision has been made about this user or post, right now im trying to make sure his/her position is considered and we will go from there.

In almost all cases in the past simply talking it out tends to resolve things with one party apologizing and being more mindful in the future. Things like this rarely become an incident or escalate once that resolution is reached, usually everyone is happy with the outcome and its just a simple misunderstanding.

I guess we will have to see what path this dialogue takes...

@BunnyHearted @conatus @L29Ah @bouncinglime

@L29Ah

but back to the point at hand.. let me see if I understand your perspective (as it seems very oddly confrontational with little benefit...

You're opinion is that enjoying fantasy literature and movies, and accepting it as a way to better cope with reality by immersing yourself in a fantasy world and being able to relax and enjoy those fantasy movies... that is "a pompous way to concede"... You took that to mean the post is going to just disregard objective reality as real all together because they happened to read a Fantasy themed book...

Again I want to give you the benefit of the doubt that because english isnt your primary language maybe you misunderstood the post. Though being confrontational about the fact that I am even asking you to consider your position and behavior in this thread and how it is perceived is quite troubling and puts in question if i was correct in giving you the benefit of the doubt in the first place.

Being confrontational and rude on such a benign post, and now doing the same when I come in to ask what your mindset was (and making no threat of moderator action as of yet) is not a good look and is compounding the issue rather than approaching a resolution.

@bouncinglime @BunnyHearted @conatus

@L29Ah

> Meanwhile, i'm pissed that you're exercising your moderator powers without citing any TOS <https://qoto.org/terms> violation.

So you feel I am exercising moderator powers by asking you what your intent is?

But sure if you need a specific ToS that is in play right now how about this part of the ToS which is exactly what is happening here:

> Don't disrespect people; if they disrespect you then block them and move on. If we get a report on one of our users then an administrator will reach out to the parties involved and try to mediate a peaceful resolution. We will talk it through like mature adults. Lets remember there is a person at the other end of the screen, if we can be mature in real life we can do it here too.

@bouncinglime @BunnyHearted @conatus