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wow it's been a while since i've used this platform. let's get back into the swing of things, at least for a little while

@FailForward Fair. sorry i dont have the mental capacity to put into a proper response right now. Super busy and very little energy left.

@freemo Thanks for your thoughts.

First, the full report is [here](science.sciencemag.org/content).

The full text seems a careful craft to me, though I have no formal training in psychology. In the end, this was published in AAAS Science journal, so no surprise there.

There are few notable observations to extract:
1. the main objective was to investigate the following questions: i) _Do people choose to put themselves in default mode by disengaging from the external world?_ and 2) _And when they are in this mode, is it a pleasing experience?_
2. Their main conclusions is this: **_Most people seem to prefer to be doing something rather than nothing, even if that something is negative._**
3. they cite several studies supporting their similar conclusions to theirs
4. there is a series of experiments culminating with the one with electro-shocks. That seems to just a final fancy twist, but their conclusions are supported well by the previous experiments already.

Personally, I can relate well to the main conclusion of the paper. Just recall observing people waiting for something, be it in a hospital or in public transport. Today, listening to music, or mindless clicking into a smartphone (reading news, tweets, toots, whatever) seems to be the major activity of most under 50 years old in such contexts. But even before the age of smartphones, in 90's it was hard to observe people calmly thinking while waiting. Most people would fidget with something, read, kick into a wall, do whatever just to _kill the time_ (up to a threshold where they would feel embarrassed which would push them into some "normal staring into a nearby wall" for a while before restarting the fidgeting, etc.). Indeed, there are folks one can observe who engage in calm observation of the world and thinking (probably), but when I look around, it's a small minority.

And me personally? As I wrote in the parent piece, I tend to find myself running in circles and ruminating (as they also mention in the article). When I have stuff to deeply think about, when left to my own devices I typically end up frustrated when I do not have a piece of paper to jot down my thoughts, because after a short while I feel like I am not making progress (difficult to keep my whole context in my short memory). The only time I find enjoyable "just thinking" is when I go for a walk and let my mind "wander around". But that is not much thinking, right? Perhaps "entertaining some random thoughts" (maybe it's rather a kind of "meditation" than thinking) would better describe what I do at those times.

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@Demosthenes hard to say, im still processing some of the evidence of what I've seen and try to figure out who the instigators are and who is at fault.

I havent quite settled on the common narrative yet, nor have I ruled it out. I dont even think they released the identities of everyone killed yet but last i checked of the identities they did released all the people who were killed were protestors. That may have changed in the past few hours if new info came out though. But last i checked it seemed a cop had murdered a protestor who had entered the capitol building but were being described as "peaceful" at the time, then after the murder of the protestor the reporting seemed to escalate the situation describing it as more violent.

@hansw its been a very long time since i tries setting up a hackintosh, not sure how easy it is these days

@freemo @ultem There's a disconnect where people not in the woke sphere see this as 'crazy' or 'irrational' behavior, but it's so pervasive precisely because it *is* rational. This is highly rewarded status seeking behavior within the victimhood culture they inhabit. They don't respond to rational arguments and logical statements, so they appear 'irrational' in their reasoning, but the difference is that they don't actually care about the argument; it's just a means to an end for them.

It's like if someone told you your job is 'wrong' and you should give it up to live in better harmony with nature. For most people, it doesn't matter what argument they can martial, you're not in the job because it's 'right', you're there because you get paid. The reward is independent of the strength of the argument.

@hansw only if your host machine is a mac. You can not run a mac VM (legally or easily anyway) on a non-mac machine.

With that said you can hack it to run, but you need a special boot loaded disc to do it (check out hackintosh)

@FailForward I saw this study a while back, the conclusions seem highly dubious to me.. all they know is a person shocked themselves when left alone in a room. There is no reason to think that it was because they didnt want to be left alone with their thoughts.

I love being left alone with my thoughts, I look forward to it. I love the time before bed because i get to lie in bed and think of all the cool things i didnt have time to think about when awake. So much so I have trouble sleeping.

Despite this as a child and even as an adult I loved taking apart those electric lighters with the shocking igniter in it. I'd play with it, shocking myself repeatedly watching the sparks fly. I suspect the shock they used in the study was of a similar nature. I see no real reason to draw the conclusion they did from the observed behavior though.

@rimugu I tend to agree with you, but I also wont care too much if someone personally chooses to avoid those words. At least there is some logic behind it.. but "whitelist" is completely devoid of logic.

@rimugu Normally I dont mind it when its borderline.. like the master-slave business, there is at least some logic to that even though I dont agree with needing to change the language, at least it has actual relevance to slavery... But this is just absolute absurdity to the point of insanity.. Its a freaking color, referring to literal colors in a context with no relevance to race of any kind is not racist...

LOL oh the irony of a white dude calling me, a person of Native American descent, racist for using the term "whitelist", and then trying to doxx the server as a racist server. LAWL.

chaos.social/@eest9/1055205511

qoto.org/@freemo/1055104228760

@cy No that isnt true during the whole of the great depression the amount of gold you can exchange for a dollar remained fixed. This was in fact codified into law guaranteeing that exactly 35 US dollars equal one ounce of gold.

Why do you insist on an opinion you are clearly not educated on in the first place? I really dont mind the discussion or the difference of opinion but your asserting "facts" that arent true and 15 seconds of research could have set you straight, yet remain fixed on your opinion.

Can you not see that is an unhealthy pattern not just in debate but in forming your own personal opinons?

@cy We are talking about inflation of the dollar not fraction reserve banking, that is another topic.

The point is at the point in time the crash happened inflation was fixed and the value of the dollar was set. There was no inflation of the dollar it always had an exact value in gold.

If you have other criticisms about other aspects of the monetary system and not in regards to inflation, thats fine, but dont mince topics.

@ultem I'm less concerned with his opinion of the term "whitelist" as racist, as absurd as that is, as I am by the fact that he felt it was so extremely offensive as to think it warranted calling me and my entire instance a racist and promoter of hate speech.

Clearly this guy is not right in the head if that is his response to this sort of stupidity.

@ultem

For clarity the "racist" language he is referring to is me using the term "Whitelist" in reference to a list for blocking people on mastodon... LOL

Please see the thread he is referncing here:

qoto.org/@freemo/1055104228760

He blocked me of course so I cant actually defend myself directly to his OP. So I will have to show you the context (funny how he just decided not to link to the actual context huh, probably because if he did it would discredit his accusation)

@eest9

@ultem

For clarity the "racist" language he is referring to is me using the term "Whitelist" in reference to a list for blocking people on mastodon... LOL

Please see the thread he is referncing here:

qoto.org/@freemo/1055104228760

He blocked me of course so I cant actually defend myself directly to his OP. So I will have to show you the context (funny how he just decided not to link to the actual context huh, probably because if he did it would discredit his accusation)

@eest9

@realcaseyrollins

Apparently having white friends automatically makes you a token.. no one could possibly be white and legitimately like you without regard to the color of your skin...

@eest9 @Locksmith @ourdiaspora @cwebber

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