@timorl thanks youa re correct, deleting and recreating, thanks.
1) I told you I was done with the conversation, please respect that.
> We want Pence”? Did you watch the video on your phone, or something with terrible sound quality? I re-watched it twice and it’s not even that unclear, especially as the person recording enters the doorway – they are very clearly chanting “Hang Mike Pence”. I suggest you rewatch it in better sound quality or something?
Even the official CNN transcript has it written as "We want pence", and CNN is liberal leaning and in general misrepresented a lot of clips out of context, so thats pretty damning that they recorded it as such.
From the transcript:
CROWD: We want Pence. We want Pence. We want Pence. We want Pence. We want Pence. We want Pence. We want Pence.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2101/11/ebo.01.html
> Well done though, you made me doubt reality, I re-watched it a third time just to be sure. Still very clearly “Hang Mike Pence”.
>
> (Once again this made me wonder if you are trolling, because if you are, you are being amazingly successful.)
Apparently me, CNN, and tons of other people who all watched the clip are all trolling you then. More conspiracy thoery talk.
After this lead in I'm not even going to read the rest of your post.
**I asked you politely to drop it, please do.** I do not find the conversation productive or your current mentality remotely objective enough to be a useful conversation.
PS: I just watched the video again just to make sure, cant imagine how you hear "Hang mike pence" on that video, seems clearly "We want pence", just as CNN transcribed it.
@academicalnerd Good, alwayss great to see quality content. Thats what it is there for. Aside from being highlighted in our menu it is also a great way for users from other servers to follow serious STEM content from QOTO.
Also you may wish to consider posting to the QOTO science group: @Science Oor if you wish feel free to start your own group on a more specific subject (or just your own style). then it will get listed in our group directory.
It provides a similar purpose as hashtags with the exception being that QOTO groups are moderated.
@academicalnerd Its a hash tag for anything of serious effort WRT STEM.. think of it like an open STEM newsletter or magazine where you can post to it openly... Pretty much if its stem related and you any effort into it then feel free to use it.
@snow What a disgusting piece of shit... not Leonie, their cool, you.
Everyone you dislike for any reason you call on the world to harass... everyone but yourself whom clearly you dislike more than most people.
Get help.
I'm sorry but at this point I have to exit the conversation, it is feeling far too much like **arguing with a conspiracy theorist** than someone with any sort of practical outlook. Now **I do respect that you will debate respectfully**, so do **feel free to disagree or interject in the future**, but hopefully next time around it wont be on this level of **absurdity**, **denial of facts**, **lies**, and **exaggerations**.
Just to be clear on why im calling this conversation quits I want to highlight the main points in your discussion that have led me to that conclusion.
## Completely changing fundamental facts
This one is the most obvious and the exchange we **just** had in the last message shows that
You said:
> So an angry mob walking towards people they just chanted about killing
and then your presented evidence in the very next post here:
> My bad, you are right, in this video https://youtu.be/ba0UR7gITrU they probably just finished their laundry and a politely asking for their pants to be hanged.
So now in the most absurd fashion possible you went from a video of people chanting "We want Pence" to that being equivalent to "chanting about killing"
On top of that your claim was they chanted about killing the cops (people) they were walking towards to get int he building. Pence wasnt seen by the crowd at any point and the video not just had nothing to do about chanting death threats, but it wasnt even remotely aimed at the cops they were walking past
## You didnt even watch your own video evidence
At least twice now, at least that you have proven, you have made exaggerated and absurdist claims and repeatedly claimed videos to back it up. In ever case the video didnt have the slightest relationship to the claims you made and in one case you outright admitted to not even watching the video you had claimed to be the biggest piece of evidence you had.
See the following quotes from you:
> And you are trying very hard not to talk about the Texas tweet. It’s very hard to create a charitable explanation of that one.
> Biden ever endorsing political violence, like the Texas tweet did.
> So forcing a car off a road is not violence? It’s a safe thing you do only symbolically?
> I only watched the video with the cars surrounded and heard the claims about someone being forced off the road.
You literally strung out that example as some defacto impossible deny example across four different messages and literally never even watched it, and just assumed what you "heard" was true, putting no effort in of your own to verify truth. Which leads me to the next point...
## You are just parroting liberals
This point is evident from the last, and your general pattern. You have sworn up and down atrocities, which almost certainly is little more than a parroting of what you heard on mainstream media or from liberal friends, from sound bites and 5 second clips.
Then when actually pressed with evidence it is clear you never even watched the videos you held as evidence. Clearly im just arguing with dogma here and a parroting of what you heard, and despite having the weakest evidence those arguments are also the hardest to argue against and change anyone's mind.
## Exaggeration to the point of dishonesty
We covered this already:
* "We want pence" turned into "chanting for murdering the people (cops) they are approaching"
* An anti-trump protestor trying to ram a trump protestor off the road turned into a trump protesters being violent
* Claims of violence from a group where every video you showed to prove it shows no violence from the group towards people of any kind and multiple acts of violence against the group including being beaten with sticks and in one case an unarmed protesters/rioter being shot and killed.
* Implying it was organized, when there was no organized effort for any of it. You had a handful of wackados online who made a few absurd and inappropriate threats but pretty much 0 coordinated effort outside of that.
* Calling a bunch of people taking selfies in the capitol who are unarmed and nonviolent with only about half a dozen actually being destructive or threatening, and even they were completely non-violent against individuals, a "coup".
Honestly I just cant engage in a conversation that has this sort of level of intellectual dishonesty. It isnt a good use of my time.
I'm sorry but at this point I have to exit the conversation, it is feeling far too much like **arguing with a conspiracy theorist** than someone with any sort of practical outlook. Now **I do respect that you will debate respectfully**, so do **feel free to disagree or interject in the future**, but hopefully next time around it wont be on this level of **absurdity**, **denial of facts**, **lies**, and **exaggerations**.
Just to be clear on why im calling this conversation quits I want to highlight the main points in your discussion that have led me to that conclusion.
## Completely changing fundamental facts
This one is the most obvious and the exchange we **just** had in the last message shows that
You said:
> So an angry mob walking towards people they just chanted about killing
and then your presented evidence in the very next post here:
> My bad, you are right, in this video https://youtu.be/ba0UR7gITrU they probably just finished their laundry and a politely asking for their pants to be hanged.
So now in the most absurd fashion possible you went from a video of people chanting "We want Pence" to that being equivalent to "chanting about killing"
On top of that your claim was they chanted about killing the cops (people) they were walking towards to get int he building. Pence wasnt seen by the crowd at any point and the video not just had nothing to do about chanting death threats, but it wasnt even remotely aimed at the cops they were walking past
## You didnt even watch your own video evidence
At least twice now, at least that you have proven, you have made exaggerated and absurdist claims and repeatedly claimed videos to back it up. In ever case the video didnt have the slightest relationship to the claims you made and in one case you outright admitted to not even watching the video you had claimed to be the biggest piece of evidence you had.
See the following quotes from you:
> And you are trying very hard not to talk about the Texas tweet. It’s very hard to create a charitable explanation of that one.
> Biden ever endorsing political violence, like the Texas tweet did.
> So forcing a car off a road is not violence? It’s a safe thing you do only symbolically?
> I only watched the video with the cars surrounded and heard the claims about someone being forced off the road.
You literally strung out that example as some defacto impossible deny example across four different messages and literally never even watched it, and just assumed what you "heard" was true, putting no effort in of your own to verify truth. Which leads me to the next point...
## You are just parroting liberals
This point is evident from the last, and your general pattern. You have sworn up and down atrocities, which almost certainly is little more than a parroting of what you heard on mainstream media or from liberal friends, from sound bites and 5 second clips.
Then when actually pressed with evidence it is clear you never even watched the videos you held as evidence. Clearly im just arguing with dogma here and a parroting of what you heard, and despite having the weakest evidence those arguments are also the hardest to argue against and change anyone's mind.
## Exaggeration to the point of dishonesty
We covered this already:
* "We want pence" turned into "chanting for murdering the people (cops) they are approaching"
* An anti-trump protestor trying to ram a trump protestor off the road turned into a trump protesters being violent
* Claims of violence from a group where every video you showed to prove it shows no violence from the group towards people of any kind and multiple acts of violence against the group including being beaten with sticks and in one case an unarmed protesters/rioter being shot and killed.
* Implying it was organized, when there was no organized effort for any of it. You had a handful of wackados online who made a few absurd and inappropriate threats but pretty much 0 coordinated effort outside of that.
* Calling a bunch of people taking selfies in the capitol who are unarmed and nonviolent with only about half a dozen actually being destructive or threatening, and even they were completely non-violent against individuals, a "coup".
Honestly I just cant engage in a conversation that has this sort of level of intellectual dishonesty. It isnt a good use of my time.
If I really needed to make a court case out of it I would. But at this point the evidence is more than enough for me to draw the conclusion I did, especially given their past pattern of behavior.
@MutoShack I <3 org mode
1) they never admited they didnt do it, sure
2) More importantly they pretty much **did** admit they did it. They claimed they were going to create random accounts ands specifically post the pictures listed in this post:
https://likeable.space/notice/A21ux0IbhoDJIkNxzc
Surprise surprise shortly after that post we have random accounts showing up on QOTO posting **exactly** those images.
But yea Casey is the crazy one for suspecting you, LOL... Snows whole response is "whats your proof".. i half picture some cheezy 80's movie with snow wearing a mustache going "you'll never catch me coppers".
1) they never admited they didnt do it, sure
2) More importantly they pretty much **did** admit they did it. They claimed they were going to create random accounts ands specifically post the pictures listed in this post:
https://likeable.space/notice/A21ux0IbhoDJIkNxzc
Surprise surprise shortly after that post we have random accounts showing up on QOTO posting **exactly** those images.
But yea Casey is the crazy one for suspecting you, LOL... Snows whole response is "whats your proof".. i half picture some cheezy 80's movie with snow wearing a mustache going "you'll never catch me coppers".
If it’s not true why didn’t you deny the accusation
@chjara yes he’s been trying to get @QOTO on #Fediblock
@Pat yes we are talking about compounding, but norally people are used to only working with compounding percentages when the percentages are fixed (and its easy).. im describing how to take the average of a changing percentage that represents a continuously compounding change.
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