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@DA70D6 Very true, there is a lot of value in having a space with real experts who will go out of their way to help. There is a **lot** of subtlety to electronics and a lot of little things you can learn from having the right people to buy from.

@finity

Literally non of that other than saying "my god" was even in the OP. By that point we were discussing a tangent on my feelings of the EO itself... nice try though.

@koherecoWatchdog

Man I wish the American economy still had small stores like this... Radioshack put them all out of business then stopped selling it when places like digikey put THEM out of business.. now you can only order from a catalog and its just not as satisfying.

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@finity

We literally made the same claim of hypocrisy, i added no perprotion to the hypocrisy or in any way gave it a scale, so again, no idea what your talking about when you literally agreed with the exact thing i said in my OP.

@koherecoWatchdog

@finity

huh? a proportion of what? suggestions of what? What are you even talking about?

@koherecoWatchdog

@finity

You:
> I’m not denying hypocrisy.

My original post:
> My god the Irony and Hypocrisy of this new Biden administration.

If your not denying hypocrisy, and my original post was claiming he was being hypocritical, where is the "blowing out of proportion" part? You are literally saying the same exact thing I said

@koherecoWatchdog

@finity

Not when your a foot away from people, really grasping at straws to excuse his own hypocrisy. Its kinda hard to deny he is a hypocrite on this one.

@koherecoWatchdog

@finity

That live with him (which would be the only ones that count if we are talking transmission)... 1, 1 out of 8..

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@finity @koherecoWatchdog

FYI for those in the thread who erroneously claimed biden was far away from people at the memorial when he wasnt wearing a mask... obviously not.

@pthenq1 Actual picture of biden at the event fox news is describing. Also the EO he passed does not give an exception for someone talking into a microphone.

@FillyAgioro I wasnt trying to encourage you to change your mind about what is fake news or not. i am just saying that few people can agree on what fake news is. So you either need to see it all and decide for yourself (with or without bias), or create or go to an environment where the news is tailored to your particular biases already.

Everyone has biases, and everyone thinks the other side is the one that has the fake news, I'm not judging. Its just up to you how you handle it.

Me I am one of those rare people who is in the middle and thinks the news from **both** sides of any issue tends to be fake news :)

@FillyAgioro Well of course, the fediverse an open network, anyone can join it. So you don't have any one person dictating what qualifies as news and censoring people. You also joined a free speech instance where censoring other instances is not something we do unless they are outright abusive.

You do have options though:

1) you can block whole instances from your account. If you block those instances that lean in the direction that disagrees with whatever your personal bias is for "real news" then you get the sort of news you dont personally consider fake. Its much easier than twitter since you dont block individuals but instances which cover thousands of people at a time many times.

2) you can join a non-free speech instance that actively blocks you from seeing much of the fediverse and actively prevents you from browsing instances they deem incompatible with the instances personal bias. Presuming you pick an instance that matches your own personal biases you will get a view of the fediverse that lacks what you would consider fake news.

@dankmaximus I figured that could be it.. I mean to be fair the curfew is unacceptable at this point. the government should know better. But I wouldnt justify riots if thats how it played out.

@realcaseyrollins Obviously as someone who believes in christianity I would not expect you to find them equal.. its a circular argument in a way as each of those categories already define for you how you should view the others, as such anyones opinion of their equality or differences is already dictated by their very adherence to the principles of each.

It would be a bit like asking "How are the democrats and republicans different"... you already know pretty much exactly the answer your going to get if you ask a democrat or republican that question, because their party already tells them what to think in that regard.

@FailForward That would, change their credit rating yes, but two things either:

1) it is not successful as a tactic in improving the rate of growth of their GDP, in which case my original formulation holds true all the same, they will ultimately default or brought closer to default should the loan cost more money than it produces

2) it is a successful tactic in improving the rate of growth of their GDP. In which case the equation still holds true but you simply adjust it to include the new rate of growth figures for the GDP to reflect this change.

Point being no matter what changes they might make it doesnt change the fact that if a loan is not more profitable than what you spend the loan on, then that decision will drive you closer to default, not farther away.

The example you give of changing of delegating some control to the EU is something you can do regardless of the loan or not, so it would be an independent variable not dependent on the effect from the loan itself with regards to defaulting, so doesnt really get around the root problem.

@realcaseyrollins They would be to someone who perceives all of those things as equally fictitious. However if someone found one more credible than the other, then no.

@cwebber I love the idea of Guix and I came really close to using it. Honestly though when I heard that none foss orijects would be strictly forbidden from inclusion from their package manager, however, I dropped the whole idea. I do recognize that 3rd parties can of course maintain their own repositories for that, but it concerns me as I doubt the tools will be there to make that easy and I highly doubt there will be well maintained repositories of that type.

I still love the idea of Guix though and maybe ill get lucky and someone will fork it who is a bit more liberal in those regards.

I also think its a good reason not to include a guix file, as it locks you into an ecosystem that is committed to certain limitations up front.

@FailForward No worries, if it was not the intention then no offense assumed. I am sorry I accused you of potentially meaning it that way. I take you at your word that it was me who was misinterpreting. Ignore any such concerns, I wont give it another thought .

It can sometimes be hard to convey tone through the internet, it happens, and the fault was mine.

@dankmaximus Oh no, what were the riots over?

@FailForward

> Thanks for the lecture

This seems like an antagonstic or atleast negative choice of words, am I misreading this?

> Finances (and thus debt) of individuals lives in a fixed context (from their perspective). A country of certain size and standing is, however, well capable to change, or at least significantly influence the context: e.g, by printing money by mechanisms like QE,

Agreed, though that does not change the answer, in fact I tried to point out those factors are simply incorperated into the equation.

Take for example when I said:

> as well as the virtual loss of money (or gain) through inflation that occured that reduced the nominal income

This factor points out exactly what you just stated, printing of money devalues you money, thus reducing its nominal value and thus would be considered as an expense on the GDP, which itself is measured nominally.

> changing legal and political framework around its debt

This one doesnt seem particularly relevant unless I mistunderstand what you mean. What would a countries internal laws or political framework have to do with the agreement they have with other countries regarding their debt. Whatever their agreement is, it exists outside the internal legal frameworks of each respective country.

> use its trade or military gross tonnage to effectively blackmail its creditors, etc.

This one makes some sense in general of course but not exactly what you were asking. You were asking when they default, obviously if you go and start a war over not paying your loan then you've already defaulted, the war just means that you may not be able to be strong-armed into paying it if you have the superior military might. Which is a fair thing to consider but a different question then "when do we default.

> Individuals have none of that.

No they don't but as we covered they are easily incorporated into the equation as each one is still measurable in similar terms as an individual.

> That is why I am interested in serious literature on the topic, rather than contrived technical arguments (I have myself a full bag of those). Do you perhaps have any pointers?

The points I made are not my own, nor are they "contrived technical arguments", they are mostly me just repeating what the already established studies and literature on the topic mostly agree on. I am somewhat surprised the original author, whoever they are, had such a hard time finding such studies. As someone who has worked closely as a professional on economic data and models, including along side other economists, I am merely providing the perspective of experts in the field.

Honestly your tone lately has been surprisingly confrontational and bordering on rude, though i continue to give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps im misreading you, I do hope that is still the case.

As for actual literature, sure like I said there are TONS. Here are a dozen that I know of off hand, could easily provide a dozen more:

Manasse, Paolo, Nouriel Roubini, and Axel Schimmelpfennig. "Predicting sovereign debt crises." (2003): 1-41.

Kulatilaka, Nalin, and Alan J. Marcus. "A model of strategic default of sovereign debt." Journal of Economic Dynamics and Control 11.4 (1987): 483-498.

Tomz, Michael, and Mark LJ Wright. "Empirical research on sovereign debt and default." Annu. Rev. Econ. 5.1 (2013): 247-272.

Feder, Gershon, and Richard E. Just. "A study of debt servicing capacity applying logit analysis." Journal of Development Economics 4.1 (1977): 25-38.

Eaton, Jonathan, and Mark Gersovitz. "Debt with potential repudiation: Theoretical and empirical analysis." The Review of Economic Studies 48.2 (1981): 289-309.

Chaibi, Hasna, and Zied Ftiti. "Credit risk determinants: Evidence from a cross-country study." Research in international business and finance 33 (2015): 1-16.

Balkan, Erol M. "Political instability, country risk and probability of default." Applied Economics 24.9 (1992): 999-1008.

Sachs, Jeffrey D. "Conditionality, debt relief, and the developing country debt crisis." Developing Country Debt and Economic Performance, Volume 1: The International Financial System. University of Chicago Press, 1989. 255-296.

Yue, Vivian Z. "Sovereign default and debt renegotiation." Journal of international Economics 80.2 (2010): 176-187.

Ali, Asghar, and Kevin Daly. "Macroeconomic determinants of credit risk: Recent evidence from a cross country study." International Review of Financial Analysis 19.3 (2010): 165-171.

Tomz, Michael, and Mark LJ Wright. "Do countries default in “bad times”?." Journal of the European Economic association 5.2-3 (2007): 352-360.

Reinhart, Carmen M. This time is different chartbook: country histories on debt, default, and financial crises. No. w15815. National Bureau of Economic Research, 2010.