🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@marathon

No thats a failure. Democracy only allows someone to face their **legal** accuser, that means a lawsuit or a criminal act. There is absolutely no legal or ethical principal suggesting that a privately submitted complaint need be made public to the accuser.

Even legally speaking you are only privilaged to face youra ccuser if it gets to court. If you call the police department and say "Hey I know bob down the street is the zodiac murderer here are some pictures" do you really think the police station is obligated to call bob, the guy who murdered 100 people and go "Hey by the way your neighbor at address X just accused you of being a murderer, we might arrest you if we get enough evidence but for now just wanted you to know who he was and where he lived"

Come on now, you know thats a pretty weak excuse for what they did and not at ALL how democracy works.

@koherecoWatchdog

@koherecoWatchdog

If the risk your talking about is "they are a large company and use equations on their data".. then that is no risk at all IMO.. if the risk you are talking about is "They have doxxed people and therefore arent a trustworthy company" then I would agree with your concerns.. really depends on the argument your coming from.

But yea my data is free for them to do with as they will, that is no risk, if i didnt want them to have any data about me (like my ip and location) I wouldnt give to them (and therefore use a vpn).

I presume any data I provide on the internet is for the infrastructures I use to use however they state they will use, and I have absolutely no problem with companies using my data as I am more than capable of obscuring the data I do not wish them to use. If they block my means of obfuscation (as sometimes happens) then the problem resolves itself, I dont use their services by default.

@marathon

@koherecoWatchdog

The fact that they transferred information of people reporting sites is very damning, I agree with you on that point (its the one and only big issue I have with them). They did correct the issue, but the fact that it was intentional leaves a lasting stain.

But your argument seems to be "they are a large technology company and they analyze the data they collect"... that is not a "risk" in my eyes no more or less than a small company is likely to misuse your data.

Thats more of an anticapitalism stance than a privacy stance based on that argument.

Though if you stick to the whole "they doxxed people and therefore cant be trusted as a company", that I would be willing to get behind.

@marathon

@marathon

Agreed on this point.. using big data is not a sin unless you can show they have exploited it.. i do not agree with kohereco's specific points, just to be clear (though i did mention my own concerns above).

@koherecoWatchdog

@marathon I am not saying I oppose cloudflare, I'm just saying the privacy concerns are valid and well known.

IMO the big one here is that privately filed complains had their full identities intentionally transfered to the site they were complaining about. that is pretty damning to me. That is also my only complain about them.

I am not anti-cloudflare but I do recognize they made some mistakes. Those mistakes (like the forwarding of information) has since been corrected so I dont mind using them again.

@koherecoWatchdog

I personally only take issue with the fact that they forwarded the identities of people who complained to the sites themselves, and their ability to be hacked in 2017 and that whole bug nonsense wasnt great either.

That said being a large company, as well as employing big data in-house on your data is **not** a blackmark in and of itself IMO.

@marathon

@marathon From wikipedia:

The hacker group UGNazi attacked Cloudflare partially by exploiting flaws in Google's authentication systems in June 2012, gaining administrative access to Cloudflare and using it to deface 4chan.[60][61] From September 2016 until February 2017, a major Cloudflare bug (nicknamed Cloudbleed) leaked sensitive data, including passwords and authentication tokens, from customer websites by sending extra data in response to web requests.[62] The leaks resulted from a buffer overflow which occurred, according to analysis by Cloudflare, on approximately 1 in every 3,300,000 HTTP requests.[63][64]

In May 2017, ProPublica reported that Cloudflare as a matter of policy relays the names and email addresses of persons complaining about hate sites to the sites in question, which has led to the complainants being harassed. Cloudflare's general counsel defended the company's policies by saying it is "base constitutional law that people can face their accusers".[65] In response to the report, Cloudflare updated their abuse reporting process to provide greater control over who is notified of the complaining party.[66]

Cloudflare is cited in reports by The Spamhaus Project, an international spam tracking organization, due to high numbers of cybercriminal botnet operations 'hosted' on Cloudflare services.[67] [68] [69] An October 2015 report found that Cloudflare provisioned 40% of SSL certificates used by phishing sites with deceptive domain names resembling those of banks and payment processors.[70]

Cloudflare suffered a major outage on July 2, 2019,[71] which rendered more than 12 million websites (80% of all customers) unreachable for 27 minutes.[72] A similar outage occurred on July 17, 2020, causing a similar effect and impacting the same amount of sites.[73][74]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare

@marathon

I am a big supporter of assange but the issues with cloudfare that Kohereco brought up are fairly well know and it is valid.

@koherecoWatchdog

@marathon I agree, most things are political.. Not sure how thats related to what I said though, I didnt suggest anything to the contrary did I?

@realcaseyrollins The base denomination of a bitcoin is a satoshi.. 1 satoshi can't even buy you a single US penny though. In fact right now a single us penny can buy you 32 satoshi!

@SubwayTooter

It isnt limited to QOTO by the way, every glitch-soc instance supports markdown as well of the same type.

If you'd like you are welcome to open an account here just for testing/debugging and you can create as many markdown posts as you'd like.

@FailForward

@koherecoWatchdog

secondary points, but nothing i will disagree with :)

@marathon

@SubwayTooter

The one you just replied to has markdown in it, but very minimally. I bolded the word "render"

@FailForward

@alex Sounds like you guys almost have all the features I implemented on QOTO down. Might be worth me taking another look at potential migration.

@marathon Also a quick search seems to suggested he has been nominated every (or at least almost every) year since 2011, pretty good chance this petition is moot as he has probably already been nominated.

@marathon Why a petition, what would that accomplish? Just nominate him any history or philosophy or social studies professor can, there is literally no need for a petition, just ask any professor with any school to do it, I'm sure there are plenty, problem solved. A petition is a waste and sounds like a pretty round about way to do a simple thing.

as for him winning, petitions dont effect that, the nomination committee does and it isnt (and shouldnt be) based on popular opinion.

Can we please stop talking about a geomagnetic reversal as if it is some sort of extinction level event. There have been at least 25 geomagnetic pole reversals since humans evolved 6 million years ago and we are still here. If it happens it may cause all sorts of technological challenges and perhaps some ecological ones, but it will not be anything close to an extinction level event.

#Science @Science #Space #Astronomy #Apocolypse

@tixie@glitch.social Skills are a fantasy, there is no such thing as being skilled! Therefore your "skills" should have no bearing on how much your paid.

@FailForward Because markdown is a custom feature of QOTO you wont find many clients support it sadly. Most of our custom features you will only have access to on the web client.

It is possible some clients may **render** the markdown though as it is embedded as html into the toot, but I dont think any would support you writing markdown toots.