@noelle @dragon @crash @undefined @Mae @MxCraven @cadence Admin of QOTO here... wow really, until this very moment I have not even heard of nazi.social and there hasnt been a single report against anyone from our instance interacting with them in any way.
Have you not considered that you should alert the admin **first** if there is a problem and not just right to defederating a whole instance without even bothering to make a report.
Moreover, even if you do wish to defederate, making a report means they have a chance to solve what you clearly feel is inappropriate behavior, so its rather disingenuous not to.
A few points from QOTO side to help you decide if you wish to defederate from us..
1) We have never had a single user that I am aware of follow, share, or speak with anyone from that instance. If they did their interaction maybe have been to yell at them and call them deplorable, or something that would otherwise be a perfectly acceptable interaction (ie not supporting the instance or their purpose).
2) We wanted to start blocking instances years ago during the great GAB block issue, many of our moderators supported a GAB block. But as anyone in the LGBT community knows from that time period we had a huge LGBT mass migration to our servers at the time (which I didnt understand at first) and when we opened it up to the group to decide ultimately it was the LGBT community who strongly urged us not to defederate from instances such as these.
The case that the LGBT community here made at the time is that most of them migrated to our server because so many pro-LGBT spaces were blocking GAB and similar servers and they wanted a place where they could monitor accounts freely for doxxing and other threats to their community and share that with the appropriate targets, for their own protection. Since most servers that had permissive federation policies were not LGBT friendly they felt QOTO was the only place they could go and be safe on our local server and have access to that information.
It cost us as a server (and still does), some servers (as we see in this thread) have defederated for our choice to defend the wishes and safety of our LGBT community, that is a sacrifice I do not regret and continue to defend. We have even added features specifically with their concerns in mind (for example their ability to get notified when someone on these servers posts but without needing to actually follow the user, to protect their identity and that they are watching).
3) We have very strict no-hate speech rules, and sharing or promoting anything from nazi.social would get one of our users banned
@aspie4K Thats a good indicator.. if there is a political rule or any suggestion of political bias what that tends to mean is "We dont have any specific rule but if you disagree with me or the group on any opinions we collectively share we will probably ban you".. Really doesnt even matter if the view is "technically" in line with their political bias, what matters is if your critical of the narrative at all, even if done so from the same side of the fence as them, thats not welcomed.
@aspie4K yup, once a server leans enough in one direction to actually declare that openly then they are already far too extremist in either direction to be of any use to anyone.
@aspie4K I think the left is just so used to loosing their shit at everything its more about the drama than any real point anymore.. Most of the time when a leftist or group of leftists loose their shit at me they just keep telling me what I said and its the exact opposite of what I actually said. its like their just making up what they want to hear in their head and then arguing against that and no matter what they cant possibly back down no matter how fundamentally incorrect they are.
Dont get me wrong the right is annoying as fuck in their own way too, but they tend to be less polarized than the left so youc an at least occasionally find a sane one who wont loose their shit over nonsense.
I'm mixed race, Native American, and have literally been called a White Supremacist before by a literally white liberal kid... and more than once.
The irony was not lost on me.
@biomedmax yea, but anyone retiring before that probably doesnt need social security and has a 401K instead, which is partially funded by your taxes as well and gives you a payout all the same.
@mur2501
Yea only rounds when you view your own profile.
@biomedmax wait what do you mean, social security tax is exactly that, you get that back after you retire if your old enough.
It only rounds when doing so will reduce the overall number of digits it needs to render. Specifically it keeps the number of digits to 3 or less counting the "K" for thousands as a digit.
@dankmaximus When you view your own profile it rounds off the decimal point I think.
@freemo I am following you with 3 of my accounts. So there is that. 😛
@Zoohouse For a second there I thought this was the USA (which says a lot).. got real worried for a hot minute.
@icedquinn indeed, they were charging down the road at me full speed (you can see the snow being kicked up). But oddly shortly after they pass me and my group they stopped and the stampede was over (as you can see in the third picture which is me looking back after they passed me to get some shots of the trailing end of the stampede).
It actually isnt uncommon in stampedes for the buffalo near the end to be more casual and the ones near the beginning to be completely freaked out. Mostly because its the buffalo behind them that are making them panic so the ones near the end don't have anything kicking them into a panic usually unless they are genuinely running from something.
@sacha So your the one who is responsible for this! ;) Glad to hear I have a fan.
Some photos from when I got caught in the middle of a buffalo stampede in Yellowstone National Park. I was being kind of stupid and had time to run off before they got to me like everyone else but I was more focused on taking pictures than my life, which in retrospect was kinda stupid. The stampede ran around me and I didnt get hurt, partly due tot he fact that there were only a dozen or so of them. I got luck.
But hey, I didn't die, and I got some **AMAZING** photos, so I will take it as a win.
#Photography #Photos #Animals #Buffalo #Nature #Yellowstone #Winter
@Pat honestly if we are talking everyday people I would expect 100% are delusional. Corruption doesnt make sense, they have nothing to gain from it. Politicians on the other hand, now that would gbe interesting.
TL;Dr Trump is an idiot and no way in hell he should be president. But no he did not make a call to action for those riots, ultimately other factors created the riots when tensions were already high.
> he did actually, he told them that they had to fight. That's a call to action.
Thats a **huge** stretch to claim its a call to action.. The term fight is not and never has been exclusive to physical violence.. "I will fight to stay alive", "you need to fight to keep your rights"... none of this implies "you must be violent".. it does mean you need to take action, not violent action, and I think you know that.
Biden/Harris has used the term fight **many** times none of which I would consider a call to action but by your definition would be, and therefore he should be in jail by your reasoning.. things like "
"I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him,[Trump]’” (in this case he is using fight to mean literal violence)
harris: "The task is to fight for the soul of our country,"
But I know better, I know someone saying "you have to fight for xxx" does **not** imply physical violence. I think you know better too but are just desperately trying to justify a weak position. The phrasing does **not** imply violence and you know it.
> He told the same people that the intelligence community, that briefs the present, suspected that might become violent.
Due to typos here its hard to understand what your saying.. Sounds like your saying some people told president trump his followers could maybe become violent... Sure, but that doesnt change anything. It makes the people who became violent wrong, and made people sure. But it doesnt make Trump legally responsible for it all the same.
Do you hold it to the same standard in reverse, we had 4 years of extreme violence from the left too, my own town was on fire for days, black smoke was in the sky and it smelled horrible, all thanks to liberal anti-government riots. Do we blame Biden for that simply because he rallied his fan base to hate the government and became volatile before finally snapping? I don't.
> While the riots were going on, he didn't do anything for an hour.
Absolutely false, I watched the riots live. The moment there was an inkling of violence he got on the TV and told them to go home. It took him the same amount of time to get on TV and make a statement as it took Biden to do the same... lets not make things up the facts are bad enough.
> When he finally told them to go home, he tells them that he loves them. They left the moment he told them to go home.
So his tactic of telling him he loved them worked and they went home? So whats the problem them, sounds like him using that phrasing was effective.
> It's pretty obvious they, it wasn't just Trump enticing their supporters, knew what they were doing and the outcome of it.
Well its not quite that simple. There were different groups in the crowd reacting to different things in different ways. As I can see it from watching every video of the day from every angle I could find there were 3 groups responding to three different things:
1) There were the very small minority of the group who legitimately wanted to overthrow the government and had delusions of grandeur they were going to start a coup. They were largely unorganized but were random people who made some indication online of having some violent intent. This seems to be something like 1% of the crowd.
2) There were the peaceful onlookers who never rioted and generally were appalled by the violence that took place. They mostly just peacefully sat there and did nothing. This was the bulk of the crowd, probably around 74% or so, certainly a majority, hard to say the exact percentage.
3) there were the people who rioted in the spur of the moment in response to the police brutality taking place shortly before the barricades were overrun.
Watching video from behind the barricades or nearby we see scenes of cops pulling people from the crowd, pulling them off to an open space and repeatedly beating them even once they were subdued and handcuffed. In one such scene that took place shortly before the crowd became riotous we see a cop beating a man handcuffed and in the fetal position on the ground while another cop is called over, pulls out his baton and continues the beating. The crowd is screaming in anger and you hear the crowd screaming things like "we should beat you!" and "stop beating him!!!" Since this was behind the barricades and in a clearing it was in clear view of almost the entire crowd that at the time was barely being held back by the barricades. Moments later the crowd turns riotous and break through the barricades charging.
It certainly didnt help that shortly after the crowd became riotous one of the small percentage from group #1 was trying to make their way to the chamber. While they were breaking windows and otherwise acting hostile you see in earlier video they were completely non-violent against individuals, as well as unarmed. For example when they wanted to break through the window a single policeman stood between her and the crowd behind her of a few dozen. They screamed at him but did not assault him in anyway. It wasn't till after he moved out of the way and she started breaking down the window that she was shot and killed. Now while what she didn wasnt right, the fact that she was non-violent towards people and unarmed, yet was shot to death was an unacceptable response and it further drew the crowd to anger. Shooting and killing an unarmed protestor turned rioter is never acceptable nor will it quell the riots, it will usually make it worse.
Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
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A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
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