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@miklo since it has become generic and not specific to stockstack (and app im working on) I intend to move its location in the hub completely in the near future. (maybe even today).. In the meantime are you looking for a copy of the dockerfile for your own use?

@xianc78

WHAT!? rick and morty quotes are the **only** quotes that should ever be allowed ever again :)

@djsumdog @mur2501

@pants @lupyuen @bonifartius

LAWL pants literally blocked me for thinking RMS isnt a shitty person.. well that tells me a hell of a lot about him.

@zleap

I think there is more than just physical laws tot he universe. There is a reality that all the religions of the world have close to correct just with a lot of nonsense thrown in to mask it.. but the distilled version is valid and it goes well beyond just quarks and atoms. With that said I dont feel anyone one religion is anymore closer to correct than the others, mostly.

@mur2501

@miamiautumn

It has now been 30 hours since we brought this up. While the moderation team seems to not be pushing for a ban on the original post of concern there is still the outstanding issue of if you have any STEM credentials. Please reply as soon as possible elucidating your STEM credentials, what field your in, and the other questions we asked or else the next step will be to freeze or ban your account until I hear back, thank you.

@khird @arteteco @Sphinx

@mur2501 In that sense I agree, people are never perfect and there will always be things in anyones life which looks bad.

@Qanon Hi, welcome to the server. Can you please let us know what your STEM credentials are and what STEM topics we can expect to hear you talk on?

@mur2501

I too became a very vocal atheist at an extremely young age and maintained that until I was a teenager despite my families strong christian background. As a teenager and beyond I have no longer defined myself as an atheist but rather "a beleiver in all religious holy texts, especially the contradictions"

@zleap

@mur2501 while thats valid for Gandhi I wouldnt say its so fitting for RMS. I do not have a view of RMS as being particularly virtuous, nor do I have a view of him as someone who is particularly evil.. To me he is just a person who has zero tolerance for political correctness and happens to be more honest with both himself and others in a way that most aspies are, and as is typical of aspies that is used against him. But aside from being an aspie he is mostly just a middle of the road guy who doesnt really cause much harm or persue many crusades for good either. He just wants freedom in software and wants to enable others to have the same.

@pants

Its only insulting if you wrongly assume he is a shitty person in the first place. As I said nothing he has done with any evidence to it that I am aware of suggests he is a shitty person or even a bad person. Literally all of it were things that were said in a non politically correct way (as is typical of aspies) and little more.

So yes, taking that and using it against him without actual evidence of him being a shitty person in a way beyond just socially insensitive is little more than an attack on someone for being an aspie.

Again feel free to share an evidence backed example of him actually being a bad person and I'll change my mind, but neither you or anyone else has done that with me yet.

@lupyuen @bonifartius

If anyone is interested wrote a docker container I am using that not only has every python scientific tool under the sun in it (derived from the official variants of the notebooks), but also contains kernels for several popular languages including Haskell, Ruby, R, Julia, and of course Python 3. I will likely be adding more as time goes on.

If you have docker installed all you have to do is run it and you are good. the image is on dockerhub under stockstack/jupyterlab

@mur2501

I mean that quite literally by the way. Since as early as I could start breaking things by taking them apart I was (as my mom will be quick to tell you :) ). Since the day I was born I insisted on understanding everything in the smallest detail... that just never went away.

@zleap

@pants

In fact the more I think about it any evidence-backed claims of something he did or said that is questionable in nearly all cases were not hateful and more of a reflection of being on the autistic spectrum. In which case the move to use those things against him to get him kicked off the board seems like intolerance and prejudice towards aspies, which is a far greater crime than anything stallman has come close to doing.

@lupyuen @bonifartius

@zleap

I was not refering to carbon-14. I am refering to isotopes which do not appear in nature and therefore their presence is due solely to nuclear testing. cerium-141 is the most notable in this sense.

@mur2501

@pants

I was not refering to him, I dont know his sexual orientation, though he was on the back of my mind when I mentioned it and I did think he posted his letter in support of RMS not against.

As for the evidence against stallman, I give weight to evidence not hearsay, particularly people in positions of power. If your asking me that I should judge against him on gossip alone from individuals whom I have no personal connection to and no way to judge their credibility, then no I obviously wont do that.

Can you give an example of any evidence-backed instances where he abused authority, I am happy to listen and maybe change my mind.

@lupyuen @bonifartius

@mur2501 We are all radioactive.. in fact the radioacitivity caused by nuclear tests from the early 1900s on has caused us all to become radioactive and it is a fairly accurate way they can test the date when an individual dies if your remains are found a good while after your death.. We will forever be cancer ridden and radioactive sadly.

@pants

Of course the men's right movement is advocating men have the freedom to be in a stay-at-home role, and many other things. It is advocating that all the ways in which a man doesnt have the same rights as a women, they should have it.

Personally I am not a supporter of feminism or men's right. I am a supporter of sexual equality and dont feel prioritizing any sex in that pursuit is healthy. But I do recognize that feminists and MRA are both working towards good goals, even if they are fairly blind to their other halfs concerns.

@bonifartius

@SeaTree (almost) all venomous creatures are poisonous, not all poisonous creatures are venomous :)

Wow, nothing could be further from the truth (replying to @pants ). Inclusiveness and diversity are one of my top priorities, yet I support him.. What you really mean is that I dont have the same priorities as you when it comes to inclusiveness.

I have spoken to a **lot** of people about RMS and your statement seems ignorantly disconnected with their sentiment. Not one of them mentioned anything about men's rights, and while cancel culture is sometimes mentioned it doesnt seem to be the primary motivating factor. In fact every single person I spoke to on other side seemed to care about the future of FSF more than anything else.

One anecdote on our server is an openly bisexual man on our server supported RMS and received very disgusting intolerant hate male of the strongest language possible for his stance, apparently this is a thing as many people supporting RMS has received the same, yet I have heard of no one against RMS being harassed in a similar manner. This right here exemplifies, I think, why people are supporting RMS, because the people who tend to be doing the hate and destroying the diversity are the very people who tried to cancel RMS in the first place.

More over, there simply isnt a good argument against him. Some of his comments that people dont like he has either changed his mind on later, or has been largely irrelevant tot he topic and certainly not hateful or prejudice even when it might be wrong or uninformed (which isnt that often).

In short, we have some very hateful disrespectful people trying to force other people to their will even when they are a minority voice and RMS is largely supported, their tactics have been unacceptable and empowering people who behave like petulant toddlers in discussing this very issue (re: the hate speech towards RMS supporters) is the very reason many of us oppose it, particularly when RMS has been the greatest driving force of FSF to begin with and the vast majority of signatures against him are from places like microsoft that have been toxic to FSF from the get go.

@bonifartius

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