🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

The replication crisis is largely limited to psychology. It also makes sense as psychology is a very hard subject to control the variables in and thus perform the same study twice. Especially when social constructs change rapidly over the course of years.

Science isnt perfect as I said, but it accomplishes a hell of a lot more ground breaking things than people who reject science. Those people wind up muttering nonsensical conspiracies for the most part.. Even engineers tend to have a foundation in science, at least the good ones.

@SneedsterSpeedster @yaksha

@kino

Yup, pretty much. I tried providing useful response early on explaining why cherry picking israel will specifically get the results they saw, and should be expected. They did nothing to learn from what I said as an expert in the field, so they made it clear from the get go id be wasting energy on them as they actively are trying to remain ignorant.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @SneedsterSpeedster @yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

No also not correct. in a 99% effective vaccine the 1% who get the virus are **not** the ones who are most likely to have also gotten the virus and is now reinfected.. in fact the opposite is true, they are less likely to be in the 1% as the previous infection combined with the vaccine will make it less likely.

@yaksha

@kino

Reciting literally incorrect data, or having no clue how to actually crunch the data is not "approaching it from a scientific mind"... for that you have to actually be educated enough to know basic statistics and other facts about the subject, which has not been the case here. Worse yet their ego prevents them from learning or making any attempt to do so. They could easily be taking this oppertunity to learn why they are wrong and how to analyze this sort of thing statiscally from an expert.. but no, they care more about being uneducated and pretending like they have a clue. Its easier than the hard work involved in real learning and study.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @SneedsterSpeedster @yaksha

@SneedsterSpeedster

I was refering to Servant who said it was a scam.

A scientists invents a drug that is suppose to cure cancer.. if your wrong then "the product is subpar" (it wont cure cancer).. it doesnt require someone to replicate what you did per se to find this out. It only requires people to use the product you created as a scientist (the cure for cancer) before people find out its subpar... its not that different from engineering. Science produces things that are reusable, either by general consumers, or by other scientists when doing further research. When it gets used the quality of the research/conclusions show though. Peer review speeds that up by reviewing the "product" sooner, much like reviewers of engineering products.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

I literally had to correct your misinterptiation of the data just one message back before you started claiming you were "well informed"

@SneedsterSpeedster @yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

Considering you and the other schmuck have repeatedly got very basic points wrong in the discussion I wouldn't describe either of you as well informed.

@SneedsterSpeedster @yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

Over 90% of the population in israel is vaccinated for the portion of the population susceptible to hospitalization (those 50 years and older). They are one of the most vaccinated countries.

Yes having 90% of the population who are likely to have a severe reaction to the point of seeing a doctor is going to **severely** skew the results...

Jesus christ people stop spewing your own made of fairy tales if you dont even understand the official explanation first (then you can try to poke holes in it ones you understand it, which you clearly dont).

@yaksha

@SneedsterSpeedster

Ahh Science is a scam, the battle cry of the moron.

When the day comes I meet one person who actually understands a scientific subject that is well established and makes that claim maybe ill reconsider. But its usually people spewing complete nonsense that is trivially debunked who keep saying that.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars

Yes to be more specific, we require people be STEM professionals.

I didnt excommunicate anyone, they are still here despite their views... However we DO strictly require people be professionals or students int he STEM field, regardless of their views.

@yaksha

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @yaksha

"Only if vaccination has nothing to do with your Chance oft getting infected"

No this is also true when the two are correlated. No vaccine is 100% so any reference to 100% effectiveness isnt relevant.

Consider a simple example, a vaccine is 99% effective and 100% of the population has it. What is the expected percentage of people with COVID you expect to have been vaccinated? The answer is 100% even though the vaccine is 99% effective.

@yaksha

No it doesnt, and quite frankly you are demonstrating you dont understand the first thing about the data... You are saying nonsensical things about the data which you clearly dont understand. I tried to explain to you already WHY the israli statistics shows nothing of the sort but you dont seem to be listening.

@kino

@kino What he is saying **is** wrong, wrt COVID and several other diseases (tetanus being a well known example that behaves similarly).

This is nothing remotely new.

@yaksha You do realize you are on a **STEM** instance? You literally need to be a professional scientist (or student) to have an account on this server... So either you arent a scientist or you think you profession is a scam?

@yaksha right, which as I already said, doesnt really happen with COVID when you are weakly infected. This isnt uncommon for many diseases which is why you need to retake many types of vaccines as well.

@yaksha Again, depends on how strong your infection was. Mild infections offer you no protection after a month or two.

@yaksha Not entirely true. Mild cases of the disease shows the antigen fades over time. So only if you had a really bad infection would it be equivalent to the vaccine. Thats one reason why the vaccine is generally recommended regardless.

@yaksha Your point?

@mur2501 If by researcher you mean someone doing research and considering it as source material (something to cite), then no. Most readers are reading it to learn what the publication has to teach. They may also do research (as scientists as a whole are more likely to read it), but pretty much anyone witht he expertise to understand it is likely going to read journal publications.

@mur2501 indeed. Though im more concerned with the readers than the researchers