🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@lucifargundam You will be arrested faster than that 9 year old trying to sell lemonade without a license. Guaranteed.

@DokiDoe

You are arguing against a ghost of a thing I never said...

When did i ever claim they wont come back or that they arent an issue?

@icedquinn @b6hydra @skells @trinsec

@DokiDoe

Try reading, I just explained to you what I implied.. I was saying that phrase specifically in reference to the USA

@icedquinn @b6hydra @skells @trinsec

@DokiDoe

No, dont put words in my mought.. I was explicitly talking about the USA, and much of what you just said doesnt apply to the USA. What examples we have tended to be very much limited to racism and sexism in the US thankfully.

@icedquinn @b6hydra @skells @trinsec

@trinsec

fair

@galena @b6hydra @skells

@trinsec

to be fair some of the worst evils have been perpetrated in the name of a "greater good"... the name itself implies one must suffer a lesser evil to achieve a greater good. So I think its understandable why the term is always viewed critically, as well it should be.

@galena @b6hydra @skells

@DokiDoe

totally different. Most of the things like eugenics or force lobotomies or any of the many forced procedures all centered more around racism or sexism. You wont find many examples of people getting away with that on "respectable" white males.

@icedquinn @b6hydra @skells @trinsec

@trinsec

I am all for fairly and honestly encouraging vaccination. Though I do think we need to be patient and not rush vaccines too. I think we skipped some important steps to get it out the door too quickly. But thats not enough of a reason to discourage them either. I just think some degree of caution or delay in this case makes some sense.

That said, I do agree in the case of herd immunity the argument shifts in your favor in terms of having some reason to argue your perspective logically and all. But even if that were the case I would say vaccination should be something you achieve through education, not force.

In fact the more I see it being forced on people in the USA (albeit indirectly for the moment) the more people resist it and the fewer people are willing to get it. So I'm not sure its a good tactic no matter how you dice it.

@b6hydra @skells

@icedquinn

At the time I'm sure forced vaccinations would have been unthinkable really considering the sentiments of the period.

@b6hydra @skells @trinsec

@trinsec

Well what is the greater good of vaccination? Remember none of the current vaccines could reach herd immunity even with 100% adoption. Also recall that being vaccinated does not stop you from transmitting it.

People dont die is the only greater good here, people who want to be protected can be by taking the vaccine and then they wont die, thats really the only greater good.

Ergo, by not making vaccines mandatory you can still get all the safety of a vaccine by taking the vaccine, and people not taking the vaccine in no way disrupts the "good" you get out of it, but it adds another level of "good" which is personal freedom. So not requiring vaccines produces a greater good than requiring it.

@skells @b6hydra

@trinsec

The greater good would beserved equally well if everyone who wanted to worse hazmat suits actually. If you think about it it still offers 100% protection for everyone in the group, so the "greater good" of vaccination is still served. Plus it has the added benefit of allowing people personal freedom and opt out without disrupting the aforementioned positive effect... Therefore it would be an even greater good because you get personal freedom on top of preventing the virus.

@skells @b6hydra

@trinsec

The thing is, other people can get the virus, wear masks, wear full hazmat suits if they like. So the whole argument of bodily autonomy not being valid goes out the window

@skells @b6hydra

@Acer bake is just normal oven cooking. Broil is where the top heater comes on and the bottom heater stays off, usually at the maximum possible temprature.

Roast is a bit different as its just a type of baking usually. Its where you bake normally then raise the temperature very high near the end of the baking, usually in broil mode. So it is effectively baking followed by broiling.

@cy@mastodon.sdf.org doubt it but not 100% sure. They are pretty picky about what organs they take I know that much.

@Co technically you kill one person and get to save several.. We should def. be doing this!

Not creepy:

> I am an organ donor

Creepy:

> I never said they were **my** organs!

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@trinsec indeed, maybe!

@trinsec The sooner the better!