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@stux

The only way I would see it as being practical is multigenerational going from one star system to another.

If you go in a straight line from point a to b and only spin up at a and spindown at b, and both a and b are close to their respective suns, then its doable. You can harvest the energy via solar panels to do the spinup and down.

Could be helpful for something like mars since mars is probably still close enough to the sun that we can use socal energy to do the spin up and down.

@zleap

@zleap

AG levels are adjusted by spinning up or spinning down the habitat torroid. Yes you can adjust it, but this too consumes energy every time you spin it up or down. So you arent really solving the energy consumption problem by doing so.

@stux

@stux

For long term trips, like multigenerational, artificial gravity is a must.

But there are reasons its impractical. The gyroscopic effect would making changing directions of a craft with AG far more costly and stressful. We barely have enough fuel as is, if we added in AG due to the added fuel it would take to make course corrections it would be virtually impossible

@zleap

@stux

Yes they workout to help mediate that. Is there any reason you'd think they couldnt do the same on a trip to mars?

@zleap

@stux

The average time astraunauts spend on the ISS is 6 months, and they recover find for earht gravity. Longest time was 14 months and he too recovered just fine in earth gravity.

So while yes it is an issue, the current methods we have of handling it are more than enough to make it workable and "safe enough"

@zleap

@immychan

Hahaha, sorry mate.

@lucifargundam

@immychan

Hahaha, im actually very much pro-capitalism.. I was just joking :)

@lucifargundam

@lucifargundam

All income is gross, Ew... viva le revolution!

@immychan

@immychan

Not to mention school isnt free. Those who do work are probably paying most of that moment on school loans with little left over.

@lucifargundam

@MutoShack dont let me stop you, complain away!

@MutoShack Land lines still exist ;)

@lucifargundam agreed, there are many interesting factors to explore here.

@immychan I'd have to take a closer look at the specific bundle to have an opinion

@immychan using apple pricing as the point of insanity seems like a good metric to me :)

@b6hydra

Very true.

@modrobert

@immychan how much are the student licenses per month?

@tripu

I'd be curious to see how these work deaths relate to pay. If there is a large portion of work deaths but they are all for high-paying jobs then that paints a very different picture than if the same were true for low-paying jobs..

There are always going to be high-risk jobs, and generally we pay people well for that risk (well hopefully), and their safety is sometimes in their own hands.

Take tower climbers as an example. They get high pay, but their safety is partly determined by if they use the safety on their climb or not. Most tower climbers are given the equipment to do so but dont use it because it is tedious to clip off 1000 times every time they take a step up the ladder. So most just dont use it. This of course puts their life at risk of falling, but thats their own choice, and are paid accordingly

On the other hand some guy working in a mine without proper safety or ventilation being paid pennies and dying off by the dozen is a very different scenario and far more concerning.

@namark

@modrobert yea thats certainly one aspect of worst case.. the other is a leak or malfunction into the sea, which is why they shouldnt even be directly on the water when land based. When inland they have the advantage of being able to contain leaks far more easily.

@modrobert yes modern nuclear plants with a high degree of safety on land without any good routes for nuclear contamination spreading are very good options to have.

I am not anti-nuclear but safety is very important and one aspect of that means you plan for worst case. Boats cant and dont do that.

@1iceloops123 You don't :)