🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@Pat Except none have been produced yet, thankfully.

@thor except you arent curing it... We have tried many times in the past to create coronavirus class vaccines.. None ever made it to market. The reason is largely what we are seeing here, they arent effective long term.

@thor Its understandable.. the conspiracy theorists and the stupid end in all this is the overwhelming majority.

@thor Correct, I would never claim those points and people that do are morons.

@Pat Inland power plants also replace coal plants, so again your argument of coal is a moot point here.

The ships being safer and less likely to blow is nice and all, but again not acceptable enough reason to have them on the water. Nuclear material should never be on or near the water.

@thor This has nothing to do wit anti-vaxxing. I am not anti-vax. It is about the ineffectiveness and impractacality of coronavirus class vaccines.

@thor the difference is the COVID vaccines were effective for a very short time after world wide adoption... booster shots every 3 months or less is not practical or safe.

@b6hydra needing a booster shot every 3 months is far from a normal thing. The current vaccine didnt even remain effective for a year.

@thor The difference is that annual flu vaccines are annual with extremely low risk profile. The COVID vaccines so far have lasted 1/4 that time and while generally safe, they dont have the safety profile of flu vaccines.

@thor yes it is... that doesnt change the facts of how this plays out however.

@thor no other way around, countries with some of the highest vaccine rates have the highest indicents of vaccine resistant strains. Israel being one such example

@thor give it time, norway is hardly going to be immune to new strains. It just needs to spread there first.

@hans_w temporarily so, yes.. and its far less than a yearly thing. The current vaccine had a very short periood where it was adequate, didnt make it anywhere close to a year.

So yes the temporary benefits for a few months I predicted.

@Pat irrelevant. No one is claiming you should use gas oil or coal either. I am perfectly ok with building nuclear power plants inland where the ability to contain a leak is much more feasible.

FYI I would just like to point out the fact that the COVID vaccine played out **exactly** the way I said it would... That it would likely only cause a temporary protection and that over time you'd need a new shot over and over again to remain protected... thus making quarantines and masks perpetual or something we have to admit we have to abandon.

Ahh I remember when all the liberals and mask fanatics were yelling at me calling me an idiot for making that claim, and here we are, exactly like I said it would play out.

#COVID #Corona #coronavirus #vaccine #vaccination

@mcduquesne

To give you both an idea of actual numbers, fukishima is estimated to have caused about 2000 additional cases of cancer from 2011 to 2015, and those cases continue to add up as time goes on. So over the course of decades we are talking tens of thousands of cancer incidents in humans.

This also doesnt account for the death in wildlife population that occurs from cancer which would be much much higher of course.

Its also important to note the half life on these things are long enough that the effects that the deaths we see per year from this will go on for tens of thousands of years. So it is cumulative in the extreme. If each incident adds 5000 cases of cancer per decade for at least 20,000 years into the future thats a case to find not even one such incident to be acceptable.

@Pat

@mcduquesne

Incorrect, it is significant enough to be measurable by over the counter Geiger counters. The fukishima incident made it very noticeable on Geiger counters when measuring west coast fish radiation levels, for example.

@Pat

@Pat A **lot** of people have died of cancer that didnt need to because of our nuclear contamination. It doesnt need to be apocalyptic to be serious.

Also as I already said, which you seem to be ignoring, is that the nuclear power plant on a US army vessle is **much** smaller than a power plant designed to provide power for a city or town. So it isnt exactly comparable to the plan we are discussing which are mobile power plants that hook into power grids.

I'm pretty sure this is how flat earthers and COVID deniers started. It was an absurd joke someone made to make fun of conspiracy theorists. It underestimated the stupidity of these people and became a real thing...

How long before we hear the fediverse filled with people thinking this shit is legit too.

@mcduquesne

What does that have to do with anything? You are missing a few key points:

1) Enriched uranium is what we care about when talking nuclear power, not uranium ore in general.

2) The uranium itself isnt even the biggest or only issue when it comes to nuclear incidents. Nuclear plants convert uranium to plutonium internally and 1/3rd of their energy comes from the produced plutonium component. Enriched plutonium, having a much shorter half life, is a much bigger issue in many ways.

@Pat