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"Here be dragons"
"Try roll"
"The truth lies within"
"The center within the circle"
"Everyone lies"
"Fools are brave, the wise are cowards"

@Zest We need to change the laws to give third parties and equal and fair chance.. Thats step 1... and may just fix the problem entirely. If not it will at least go a long way.

@khird I can understand that mistake as well, early on.. but like i said, once they saw the Taliban taking over almost immediately after they pulled back in each sector they should have reconsidered their assumptions. So bad intel or not, that is still on the military and Biden. Also the very fact they didn't have good intel at all is already the military's fault and not really an excuse.

@freemo I don't know how they got the numbers they did. I see some things that suggest they underestimated the foreign support the Taliban had been receiving, and so the strength of the advance was significantly higher that the assessments would have suggested.

> In a stunning rout, the Taliban seized nearly all of Afghanistan in over a week, despite the hundreds of billions of dollars spent by the U.S. and NATO over nearly two decades to build up Afghan security forces. Just days earlier, *an American military assessment estimated it would be a month* before the capital would come under insurgent pressure.

cbc.ca/1.6141568

@khird I cant speak for if they had really shitty projections. But I was following the statistics and saw things fallying **really** fast. Literally the moment we would pull out of a region it would fall.

I dont know how they could possibly project that, at least to me seemed obvious ever step of the way where this was headed.

@Humpleupagus As much as I agree with where you are going (the govt shouldnt force vaccines) the analogy is such a HUGE stretch... poor delivery my dude.

@freemo

In fairness to Biden, the plan was never for civilians and equipment to go first, last, or in between. They'd simply stay and carry on under the Ghani regime, so the military was the *only* group supposed to exit.

So much for the plan.

@khird This is true, but we knew very early on that wasnt happening, and yet he kept withdrawing troops and not focusing ont he civilians. So while I might cut him some slack early on in the evacuation, by the end he really dropped the ball.

@Zest Fair, angry at him is a valid response for sure.

I didnt vote for him. I have a personal rule never to vote for a politician who spent a huge portion of their career opposing desegregation.

@worldsendless it does work, but only if that person is already federated with the server.

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