🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@INSTALLGENTOO hahaha. honestly while i dont own it for sexual reason it has entered the bedroom on occasion for some experimentation. I never really thought of it as BDSM but I cant object to that description either.

@jch

I sure have. Two points

1) according to the autopsy level his blood serum level of fentanyl would have been high for a new user but is within acceptable limits of someone who had been prescribed fentanyl over a long period of time and very tolerable for a drug addict. In short, it was within the limits some people would have who were on a doctor prescribed dose of the drug, not at all the lethal limit people suggest. I presented this some time ago whent he subject was fresh and shared the medical guidelines and report on my feed.

2) speculating about if the fentynal was a contributing factor that weakened his heart enough so that he was less tolerant of the suffocation and therefore a factor in his death isnt really all the relevant to Chauvin's innocence anyway. The fact that he sat on the man for 4+ minutes after he was told his heart stopped, regardless of why it stopped, and refusing to let the officer give his lifeless body CPR is more than damning enough to make the fentynal issue irrelevant.
@zleap @icedquinn

@zleap

Yea thats correct. Cops get more than enough training to know full well what took place was effectively murder and in no way remotely related to what is expected of, nor allowed by, a cop in such a situation.

@MaceDindu @icedquinn

@zleap

Yes but a call handler will give you the advice I just mentioned. You arent supposed to give rescue breaths or take pulse unless trained

@icedquinn @MaceDindu

@MaceDindu

Oops sorry im not competent enough to know that once someone tells me someone else is dead that I should stop sitting on top of the person.

The dude literally told a cop trying to give him medical attention no. Thats not simple incompetence at that point,.

@icedquinn @zleap

@zleap

If trained then pulse, within 10 seconds start cpr if none. 30 compression, then 2 breaths, repeat. Untrained you dont take pulse or do the breaths, just the compressions.

@icedquinn @MaceDindu

@icedquinn

Yes doing a pulse check is part of the CPR procedure and defines how you administer CPR. Someone with a pulse and not breathing is handled different than someone without a pulse and not breathing.

@MaceDindu @zleap

@MaceDindu

All cops are requyired to be CPR certified actually as part of their training in almost ever precinct in america. Even myself as a SCUBA diver am CPR certified and "As a rando" have duty to perform CPR should it be needed.

@icedquinn @zleap

@MaceDindu

Again even if true doesnt change the guilt of the cop. Once he went lifeless and was told there was no pulse his actions made him as guilty as a murderer and should have

@icedquinn @zleap

@MaceDindu

Someone took his pulse (a fellow cop) and informed him there was no pulse and he seemed dead, insisting he needed help. His body was limp. There is no conceivable way you can justify his actions following that. Even if there is an off chance the police officer was wrong, your just grasping at straws at that point. When someone is unconscious and your told they have no pulse, your priority as a cop is to help the person, espcially considering this is a person who was not being arrested for any acts of violence of any kind.

@icedquinn @zleap

@zleap

Nah fentanyl is abused for sure and yes leads to many problems. But it is a legitimate drug that many patients legitimately need. It is the only thing that can give many any reasonable quality of life at all.

@Ariovistus @icedquinn

@Ariovistus

Wouldnt change his guilt even slightly if it was. Sitting on a dead mans chest refusing to let people resuscitate him for 4+ minutes means that no matter what triggered his death he is just as guilty in my opinion.

@icedquinn @zleap

@MaceDindu

Not true, and wouldnt even be relevant if it were true. Sitting on a dead persons chest for 4 minutes after they die refusing people to do CPR is more than daming enough regardless of if he suffocated him or not, which he did.

@icedquinn @zleap

@zleap

You'd have to narrow it down, a lot of 13 year old boys get shot by cops,

@icedquinn

@icedquinn

I dont see suicide by gun as an argument against guns. People should have a right to commit suicide, as tragic as it is, and someone choosing to kill themselves is their right. IF a gun makes it easier, thats a good thing, I would prefer that over someone trying to suffer by killing themselves via slower means.

@zleap

@zleap

The cop didnt shoot george floyd, he was much more cruel, he slowly suffocated him and even after being told the man was dead and stopped breathing he refused people to attend to him and continued to suffocate his lifeless body for something like 4 more minutes...

At least with a gun he might have the excuse that he reacted before thinking (not a good excuse but its something)

@icedquinn

@zleap

That I am not sure of, but I would suspect like homicide in general it is likely fairly hair perportion. A person with good mental health is very unlikely to kill someone who isnt a threat. In a way I'd say the very act of killing someone who isnt a threat effectively proves you have mental health issues at all.

@icedquinn

@zleap

Technically speaking an officer needs to try to justify their actions here too. The problem is the standard for that justification is much lower than the general public.

An acceptable justification might be "I saw him reaching under the seat", as it turns out he just had a water bottle under the seat or something. Now if a citizen shot someone dead for reaching under their seat you better believe they wont get off.

@icedquinn

@icedquinn

I own a relatively high power TENS and have turned it up to max.. yea its not pleasant at all but as far as torture goes its actually relatively barable.

@zleap