@ejg Would you like to see a copy of the current draft in private?
@freemo why not just publish the draft first and have the discussion in the open? I would think you could generate more interest that way.
Have you reached out to other instance admin about this?
I feel like this could result in some negative unintended consequences. De-federation, and the social threat of de-federation is the main tool to apply pressure to instance admins that are not sufficiently moderating their community.
This seems it would make that process harder.
@ejg The intent is to do just this.. I just want a good starting point to kick off the discussion.. So im starting with a private discussion, going to refine the draft there, then im going to open it to everyone to contribute.
Yes I am working in private to get some admins and even users on board. I dont want to go public till we have a decent number of supporters just to help counter any backlash people might throw at us.
To your comment about making it harder... sort of.. an instance can always leave the UFI for starters, second, that process SHOULD be harder, at least in terms of collecting evidence and having some due process. The beauty is having curated evidence means even servers outside of the UFI can, if they wish, use us as a source of fact-checking..
If facts could quelch this drama it never would have started in the first place.
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@stevenclyman will do
@stevenclyman Sure, sounds fine... would you at least like a copy of the draft when I send it. You can respond to it if you like, no pressure.
@robryk Do you also want to be involved on in the conversation or nah?
@stux morning
@stevenclyman So that seems more like a set of minimal rules you should follow for moderating your own instance... Very different from what I am proposing which is an actual federation of instances ...
I think you'd understand the differences best if i send you the draft. Would you be interested in joining the discussion and offering feedback?
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@stevenclyman My guess would be the big difference for us would be due process, democrattic process, and a no-defederating within the UFI policy... but again id need to see these other attempts to really say.
@stevenclyman A very good question.. can you link me to previous efforts so I can review their approach and then I would be happy to tell you how/if we differ.
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I'm glad to hear your rational response. I also want to say if you DO see anything you disagree with, please report it first. Bad-actors cant be handled if I dont know about it, and we DO handle bad actors when they come up.
I am working with a coalition of admins right now to bring a solution to the fediverse to address this very thing. A way to document accusations and ensure they have their due process and to allow for a "United Federation of Instances" that have some assurances they are good actors as a result of this.
@skanman once i get some responses ill send out a seperate DM that shares the initial draft and opens up the floor to discussion.
I am gathering a list of people who want to be involved in the discussion around the formation of a "United Federation of Instances" which is an attempt to combat the fracturing of the fediverse and the general spreading of misinformation WRT moderation decisions.
If anyone is interested in being a part of it let me know in the replies. I will add you to the list, share the draft proposal, and we can start discussions. I have several people already interested.
@al1r4d Thank you.
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