🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@tero

We now have a website up, its only half complete and not officially launched, but it has the broad strokes:

https://UFoI.org

@ufoi

@Floyd

HTTPS is now working.

@ufoi

@geantonicelli

Ok we now have support for the users too. We can add you if you want.

@ufoi

@gregory

Nice! Yea it helps with how other instances view you at least.

@ufoi

@admitsWrongIfProven

excess mortality is much harder to measure and is very case specific. No what i mean is the chance of you dying directly from the disease, if all else remains the same, is higher from excessive mask usage over time.

Obviously this is an over simplification and the actual details are rather complex. But when you have a disease like covid that mutates rapidly and has a limited period of immunity, and when you have vaccines that are many generations behind (and really cant keep up due to mutation rate).. then yea, masks lead to a better chance youll die.

The reasoning makes sense when you think about it.. If you take the 1st gen vaccine, then dont wear a mask, you are constantly exposed to the virus and its mutations.. so you are constantly catching the virus but you are also constantly asymptomatic since your natural defenses are constantly being exposed and learning.

@Pat

@jonnypencils@social.retrodon.net @jimblimey@toots.jimblimey.com @evolutional @zxdunny

Would be happy to add you to the UFoI. Now is the time to join as it will be a much more difficult and slower process once we officially launch. But for now the founding members have a much easier time getting in.

Check out: https://UFoI.org

Being a single user instance isnt a problem either.

@Pat

Yup, tons of things we can speculate... The real problem is all the factors we cant forsee... For all we know there is a food they eat that protects against covid, who knows.... most of what we do in the world of statistics is to proctect us against the things we arent aware of.

@admitsWrongIfProven

@Pat

There may be some validity to that depending on how you look at it. But I'd have to do more research to say.

Generally when you use masks excessively for any disease the number of cases go down but the mortality rate goes up, particularly over the long term. In fact if you wear respirators too much or are excessive about wiping germs you have a much higher chance of autoimmune disorders too.

So it is reasonable to think china may have fewer overall cases, but more people are dying either directly of COVID or of developed auto immune diseases.

I know off hand the morality rate of covid in China is twice that of the USA, without a proper study I cant say what the real death toll is, but there is enough to suggest there may be some validity here, MAYBE... need to see a proper study.

@admitsWrongIfProven

@Pat I never made any claim in this thread that respirators **arent** effective... or even that japan didnt make good choices... all im saying is the evidence you presented to back this up is invalid.. perhaps good evidence would support your conclusion though.

@admitsWrongIfProven

Weather, genetics, access to water, food, nutrition, physical fitness of the population, age distributions, insularity, there are hundreds if not thousands of factors.

More over it is the factors we dont know.. there is a raeson experts in tthe field do it the way they do and reject the analysis approach you did.. just because you cant think of the hidden confounding variables doesnt mean they arent there.

@Pat @trinsec

@Pat

No, they dont, again, invalid analysis... There are **tons** of other factors, many of which have nothing to do with decisions the government or the people made, which may attribute to the absolute results... assuming there is causation is known-bad-analysis.

@trinsec

@34a3cff1fb40

There doesnt appear to be an account there by that name.

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