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@jaysonmassey I love this, going to have to look into it more... all about journalism reform!

"the Solutions Journalism Network have now trained over 25,000 journalists worldwide to cover the news in ways that won’t make us sick."

"Solutions journalism…

- Describes a response to a problem and how it works.

- Seeks to draw out insights that explain success or failure.

- Presents the available evidence about the effectiveness of a response.

- Explains the shortcomings or limitations of the response."

solutionsjournalism.org/storyt

@dside

Im not sure i agree its a veto... members who join the UFoI do so because their rules are already compatible.. they do so because they are already moderating that way. If they change their moderation to not be compatible they leave... When there is an open door policy it isnt centralization as there is no sense of control.

Its better to think of it as certification "I am certified by theUFoI that I meet certain minimum standards".. it isnt centralization because youa rent required to be certified and may choose whatever standards you want, and even get certified under a different set of standards by a different federation.

@saiv46

@dside

Ok, though the UFoI doesnt make moderation decisions at all.. this isnt a block list afterall.

Out of curiosity are you a user or an admin?

@saiv46

@dside

I think the skeptisim is healtthy, as i said its why we added the right to leave clause... My suggestion would be join.. act like a force of rationality to keep the ship headed int he right direction (which only happens if you have a vote as a member).. if it goes south, leave. There is the off chance people might block you for leaving but thatts no worse than it is now where people will block you for having any opinion that differs from their own.

@saiv46

@dside

Also I'd argue its more decentralized in a weird round about way... if you do nothing we see huge fracuring and insular silos spring up.. each small group is highly centralized since things are only decentralized if they arent isolated....

Since this prevents fracturing in fact it preserves decentralization and thus is less centralized.

@saiv46

@dside

I didnt add that clause because im anticipating problems. I added it because you are :)... I wanted to make it very clear that isnt what the UFoI is about fromt he get go. It is there to put your mind at ease more than it is to put mine at ease :)

@saiv46

@andrewt

I've taken your concerns into consideration and changed our ToS to be more clear.. do you think this satisfies your concerns (see our ToS, its live)

Under what will get you banned:

No hate speech, We define hate speech as any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a protected characteristic, in other words, based on their age, disability, ethnicity, gender, pregnancy, nationality, sex or sexuality.

Under What won't get you banned:

Unpopular opinions voiced respectfully will be fine, so long as it doesnt violate our other rules.

@doot

@andrewt

> Help me understand here. Do you think a user would look at the rule “no hate speech” and assume that it meant they couldn’t say Windows Phones are good?

Its a qualifying clause, not an exceptional clause.. so that question doesnt make sense unless it were an exceptional clause.

> “no bots but black people are ok”

The difference is hate-speech is sometimes misused to include things that arent hate-speech.. othertimes its misused to not include things that are hate speech.... on the other side I have never seen the term "bot" being misused to include black people...

All that said clearly the clause is causing confusion and you are interpriting it in a way that it wasnt meant to be. It is my job to make it more clear then... I will reword it now and move that qualifying clause to its own line and therefore address your concern so it wont be mistaken as an exceptional clause.

@doot

UFoI 

@Ryle

Adds a green check mark next to your link to your user profile.

@ufoi @joaopinheiro

@goatsarah

If you arent part of the solution then you are part of the problem...

@doot

@joaopinheiro

Lets summarize.. if you tell fasciests they are pieces of shit they will block you and tell others to do the same.... Sounds a bit like fascism with extra steps.

@Ryle

@joaopinheiro

Oh in that case it is kinda needed because it plays to a feature only mastodon has.

@Ryle @ufoi

@koyu@koyu.space

Why must everyone turn good things into toxic things... its depressing.

@trinsec

@dside

I see it very much to the contrary.. its an organization where a bunch of people were victims of "guilt by association" got together to stop it... considering that a threat to guilt by association sounds like a huge leap.

It also isnt centralized, it is decentralized.. thats why it is built to be compatable with "sister federations" (horizontal decentralization) and coalitions (vertical decentralization)

@saiv46

@joaopinheiro

Lets summarize.. if you tell fasciests they are pieces of shit they will block you and tell others to do the same.... Sounds a bit like fascism with extra steps.

@Ryle

@goatsarah

Well the "sales pitch" is posted as a draft. Thats intentional, the point is so you and people like you can jump in and help reword it to get it to something you do like... So why not go in and make edits and suggestions to something you find more appealinng. I have no doubt it will go through.

@doot

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