@admitsWrongIfProven Yea but the conclusion isnt "we shouldnt have metrics" the conclusion should be "we need to be careful about how we apply metrics and dont do so in a dogmatic way"
@admitsWrongIfProven Well yes its all in the definition of free... I generally interprit free markets to mean "Markets free from interference, governed by supply and demand, not manipulated"
@admitsWrongIfProven Free markets work just fine, as long as you understand its limits (they dont work for healthcare, as we discussed, and they also dont work at addressing poverty)... but as long as they are applied appropriately then they work just fine at creating balance.. But a free market also implies no monopolies.
But yea I actually could make melatonin just fine... but I cant because its socialized medicine and they own the cartel, and they made damn sure the safest drug you could ever hope to sell over the counter is prescription.
I miss back when I used to go to ballets and get to go to the after party... I was like 10 and my mom was friends with a semi-famous ballerina. So I have this nostalgia aattaches to the after party cause I am just this 10 year old boy around a bunch of beautiful ballarina all sweaty and glowing and getting to meet with each of them and congratulate them on their performance and then them hugging me cause, I was a 10 year old boy... memories.... I want to go to after-show parties again!
@fasnix My gut tells me that it is suprisingly low variance... I know its low enough that I and most people cant detect it, so its clearly an impressive number whatever it is.
Listening to music I had a question I must get an answer to now....
Among professional musicians what sort of variation is there between the beats of the various players in a band.. in other words, just how good are the best humans at keeping in sync with each other.
It might have been answered before, and if so I hope I can find a study that explored this....
@Dimestorehalo The cost for the appointment was $133, The prescriptions cost me$172 here.
In use a doctors appointment ifor me is $50 (sometimes $25) and my prescriptions under $30.
That said there is a lot of caveats that mean I wouldnt be comparing the costs here without considering the caveats,which are real issues but the cost isnt the whole picture.
No melatonin is actually pre-packaged at 2mg. My doctor prescribed 1mg however and thus required compounding in this case. If i had the 2mg one I would have gotten it immediately and it would have cost me about $40.
@AncientGood Vast majority of the time in both socialized and not socialized system melatonin is dirt cheap. The issue is what drugs you wont have access to (and if you can get at any price) is different from system to system. In the UK for example I'd be fine and melatonin would be very cheap, but Id have no access to Zelapalon (the other drug i need to regulate my sleep disorder).
@bjarne The point was not to compare costs of the two types of systems... The point is to highlight the lack of accessibility to certain medications. The cost in israel is actually a positive thing because they still give non-citizens a way to pay their way through to an imported solution. Most other countries dont even let you do that much and you wont have access to critical drugs no matter what you are willing to pay.
I have covered this in more depth recently in a post where I highlight several examples of failures in socialized systems which ive personally expiernced as a person who has lived under at least a dozen different socialized healthcare systems at this point.
To summarize i generally agree the main fault with the USA system is cost, the problem with socialized systems are generally wait time and accessibility to certain drugs and procedures.
@VoxDei The issue with melatonin is one you will only see in Israel with that drug.. You have similar issues with other drugs in other socialized systems, but not really with melatonin.
In the UK for example I wouldnt be able to get the drugs I need for sleep but in the case of hte UK it would be the Zelepalon not the melatonin (I take both)
@Aviva_Gary They are beautiful creatures!
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I agree, if the name of the instance can be shared and why there are concerns, we can click, and select block from the menu, then the power is in the hands of end users.
Fedi is a community we need to work together, hopefully all these instances that promote x activity, can keep going but they just end up talking to each other.
You can... or you can ask your user to move to a more inclusive instance? You can also follower their RSS feed or use subscribe if you just want to watch their account but not interact.
Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
Innovator & Entrepreneur in Machine Learning, Evolutionary Computing & Big Data. Avid SCUBA diver, Open-source developer, HAM radio operator, astrophotographer, and anything nerdy.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA, USA, currently living in Utrecht, Netherlands, USA, and Thailand. Was also living in Israel, but left.
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(Above pronouns are not intended to mock, i will respect any persons pronouns and only wish pronouns to show respect be used with me as well. These are called neopronouns, see an example of the word "frog" used as a neopronoun here: http://tinyurl.com/44hhej89 )
A proud member of the Penobscot Native American tribe, as well as a Mayflower passenger descendant. I sometimes post about my genealogical history.
My stance on various issues:
Education: Free to PhD, tax paid
Abortion: Protected, tax paid, limited time-frame
Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
Racism: is real
Guns: Shall not be infringed
LGBT+/minorities: Support
Pronouns: Will respect
Trump: Moron, evil
Biden: Senile, racist
Police: ACAB
Drugs: Fully legal, no prescriptions needed
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