@timorl Actually after a bit more consideration I think I was a bit hasrsh with you in both my tone and my judgement,... While I do feel I was justified I think you have some point in the fact that diect linking provides easier access to harassment.. though as I said I wouldnt say that is the same as promoting harassment, and you are right, explicitly stating to my followers not to harass could have been a cautious step to take.
@timorl Actually after a bit more consideration I think I was a bit hasrsh with you in both my tone and my judgement,... While I do feel I was justified I think you have some point in the fact that diect linking provides easier access to harassment.. though as I said I wouldnt say that is the same as promoting harassment, and you are right, explicitly stating to my followers not to harass could have been a cautious step to take.
> Democrats try to institute magazine capacity limits, bans on bump stocks, bans on guns designed for the battlefield, red flag laws, background checks, waiting periods....it goes on and on.
Yup all examples of things that pander to the public because a misinformed public think those things help when in fact they make things worse... especially when thats what they SAY they do.. for e4xample no, they havenever banned a gun meant fo the battle field, they ban things like AR-15 which has never seen a battle field and its overwhelming use is to kill small pests. It isnt even suitable for deer hunting... so yea they sit there doing things that people will **think** are real actions but int he end the end result is an increase in violence not a decrease beecause all they did was restrict access to guns for people who arent the problem.
Yes republicans do block those nonse4nse, uninformed, and not backed by science attempts... they arent wrong for that...
Now where republicans ARE wrong, and they do bare a lot of blame, is in the blocking of access to mental health and other things which are actual genuine solutions to our problem.
@timorl Their reach is far from small.. They have 5K followers, so my reafch on followers is only 6x larger... BUT as I said they were using mailing lists, and posting to hash tags which meant they were intentionally trying to spread their message (lies) much farther than me.. so effectively since they were trying to extend their reach, I was not, it was pretty balanced int hat regard.
Regardless I dont think that matters.. if you are engaging in slander, you deserve no protection for the consequences of being a liara and a shitty person getting out to the public.
I mean i dont see much of a difference between him explicitly putting my handle in all of his slanderous posts (which is a copy and paste away from contacting me anyway..
And as I said, if you get harassed because the truth about you gets out and turns out you were lying and being a horrible person... thats on you, not the person who told the world what you did, particularly when that person is the one you tried to slander.
You dont get to ask someone to not QT you when you are actively lying about them and publicly starting a commotion directed at them.. nope no way. If he were simply saying stupid shit and I was QTing him but it had little to do with me then I might agree.
@Hyolobrika@berserker.town j I think that is more a problem in how you view things than anything I said... explaining **why** a think happens is **not** the same as justifying a thing that happens.
These very sort of mind games "how dare you justify X by explaining how one action might cause it" is why we cant get anywhere as a society. Not everything needs to be painted with a broad stroke of the same color lacking any nuance for fear the nuance might explain external factors.
@barcode this is true as well...
The 24 hour news cycle, with it's competitive rush-to-be-first incentives, will never connect harmlessly with masses who'll take anything and use it to reinforce whatever they already believe, declaring it as justification to double down on their beliefs.
That's not even going into social media's reward mechanisms: "We don't know" won't get 1000 RTs, "This is because of (outgroup)!" can get enough traction to go to war.
Combined, it's a golden age for fear-mongering and scapegoating.
@freemo it's not even that, it's the same people that are usually defending against the same accusations whenever a nut that aligns with their group is the shooter. It takes a special kind of stupid to go from "just because one right-wing r****d shot up a school doesn't mean all right-wing people are insane" directly to "some trans r****d shot up a school therefore all trans people are insane".
On the other hand, I'm sure a lot of those people don't actually think that unironically and are instead taking it out on the situation usually being the reverse, "journalists" crapping out articles that imply a shooter is a good representation of a group they belong to.
@Amikke Yup... people will do anything in terms of mental gymnastics to justify their own trbe and likewise to blame any tribe they arent in
Oh shit now the "hey transpeople are evil cause one just shot some kids" morons are creeping in on my timeline... its almost like being a member of one of the most abused, ridiculed, attacked, and tortured groups in existance (trans people) might lead to a very very small portion of them snapping and becoming violent... the level of stupdity of these people to think it infers trans people are just bad people, instead of recognizing it might be a symptom of extreme abuse, is mind boggling.
@kaloot18 why woukd i do that thats not how valid analysis works, there woukd be no way to know what qualities of other countries are to blame... could just as well be the socialized healthcare providing mental health treatme t making the difference.
@PawelK have fun with that, bye
@PawelK At this point, no.. if you were discussing like an adult in good faith and without trying to be a literal piece of shit then id have discussed the evidence.. at this point you have no value to me and demostrate any effort in engaging with you will just be a waste of electricity
@PawelK Based on your response clearly you are clueless.. At the very least you have madeit quite clear you have no value to me to interact with.
@PawelK ok
I wonder if you realize the stupidity in defended your bigotry on a single event by talking about patterns while making no logical argument nd providing no logical data about patterns or trends
Look I get it your a piece of shit who clearly has some sort of issue with trans people... you can take that shit elsewhere as far as im concerned, especially when your arguments are such nonsense and a waste of my time.
You really just make shit up... Dictionaries are the authority onw hat words exist.. CIS is in the dictionary... It exists, and you sound like a nutter trying to claim a word doesnt exist that clearly does, and is used and in ever way to any sane person obvious exists.
You may not want to use the word, you may not even be educated enough to understand the difference between gender and sex, who knows.. but the word exists.
@PawelK Again I dont know the circumstances well enough... My guess would be they didnt simply say "she is a cool person I like her" and he went on a rampage.. it was likely quite a bit more cruel and targted than that.. but im not sure, like i said i didnt look into it...
Regardless whats your poiint.. even if they were just another fucked up murderer, your point, people murder for all sorts of fucked up reasons all the time, few if any are ever justified.. the countless CIS people that murder are no more a representation of CIS people than a trans person.
The fact that you think this is some sort of "gotcha"or something is more telling of you than of the trans community.
@PawelK Dont know enough about the circumstances.. chances are it follows the pattern of most shootings, he was tortured and bullied by his pears until he snapped, had a mental break downa nd killed everyone... But without reading up more ont he circumstances i dont know if that applies.
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