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@lore Frankly I find it amazing that C and C++ in general are as portable as they are.

@Pat

I have little doubt an animal started the pandemic... Of course this doesnt rule out it being man "bred", but that doesnt have strong evidence to support it.

@trinsec @acjay

@justaboutnormal

When you provided tbose links it appears you completely ignkred tbe criteria i explained would make a good study and what wouldnt... why are you cherry picking studies we already covered woukd be dishonest intellectually in this debate rather than using analysis that uses causality tests and therefore woukd be valid?

You can absolutely change my mind, i change my mind 10 times before breakfast. But i was carreful to explain the criteria before you did exactly what you did and post studies that are trch ically true but simply do not apply to the argument at hand, much like the antivaxxer nonsense of "if we made vaccines illegal there would bw less vaccine related death... like sure jts true, and sure you can find studies to verify it, but jt also has nothing to do with if vaccines should be legal either.

Now i explained earlier before you even posted why studies of these nature woukd be jntellectually dishonest, did you not understand that, do you want to get into that again or we just burrying our head in the sand now.

Talk to me when you have studies that use proper analysis for thr problrm, causality tests.

@justaboutnormal I think we would have to discuss the criteria and conditions first... I dont know your level of expertise. Presuming you are familiar with fair statistical analysis can we agree that we can use simple correlation against other countries due to confounding and the way to analyze this sort of data is using granger causality or similar causality tests?

@justaboutnormal

> This is clearly your opinion.

Clearly, I'd wager a correct opinion as well. But yes it is an opinion, much as it is your opinion as to who you think qualifies as a constitutional scholar.

> As for your premise that other measures would mitigate gun violence, you’re absolutely right and we should have better social supports,

Good glad we agree on that.

> but it is also true (the data supports this) that stricter gun laws result in less gun violence.

Absolutely false, but there is a lot of intellectually dishonest analysis from both sides, so I can understand how you might make this incorrect assumption, in fact the opposite is true (the data that is well done and objective, using valid arguments, strongly suggests reducing guns increases violence.)

@Swagpuss McG You may not have noticed it yet because all you've ever seen so far of the Fediverse is Mastodon, but Mastodon doesn't give you an untouched "pure feed."

It leaves Mastodon toots untouched, yes.

But everything that comes from outside vanilla Mastodon is changed, if not to say mangled.

Posts from Pleroma, from Akkoma, from MissKey, from CalcKey, from FoundKey, from Socialhome, from GoToSocial, from Friendica, from Hubzilla, from (streams), even from Mastodon forks have any and all of their text formatting stripped away. You won't even be able to tell quotes because they aren't shown as such, because Mastodon removes the necessary formatting.

Also, pictures. Other projects can embed pictures within a post, and they can show more than four pictures. Mastodon rips the pictures out of the posts, converts the last four into file attachments, shows them after the post instead of within the post where they belong, and all but the last four pictures are discarded, thrown away, never to be seen by any Mastodon user.

If this isn't abstraction, I don't know what is.

That's why I've told you to try Akkoma and/or Friendica. It will open your eyes and show you what the Fediverse really looks like, and what can be done in the Fediverse, all once you're free from the restrictions and limitations of Mastodon. It'll be at least as much a revelation as when you learned that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only Mastodon.

@mike805

Japan has a much healthier social environment built on respect, and much much better access to mental health than americans... So Japan is just as well explained by the two criteria I already gave earlier than by access to guns.

@pj @thatguyoverthere @lmrocha

If you're into astronomy, this is just so wild - a black hole ejected from a galaxy created a 200,000 light-year long trail (larger than our own galaxy) of new stars. hubblesite.org/contents/news-r

@hasmis Attached is the hockey stick... notice quite clearly it begins around 1900...

This is why its rediculous your arguing for anything in this debate.. you are so extremely uneducated in even the basic statements that its hard to take you serious on any level, and makes you discredit yourself to be this uninformed and yet to still have a strong opinion.

@hasmis The of of the curve is important,a nd it is a hockey stick... that curve however starts around 1900s (industrial era).. so you are far too zoomed in to see it. Which is why, as expected and in total agreement with the claims you see consistent global warming and no hockey stick... get the same graph starting a few hundred years back and it will be quite noticable.

@biorxivpreprint bullshit, i tested this out just last night. I dont remeber the exact results but im certain this cant be true!

@freemo @pj @mike805 @lmrocha when I attended the course recommended for concealed carry (not required - constitutional carry) they pointed out in very clear terms the job of the police is not primarily to defend you. It is to execute the law which generally means arresting people suspected of a crime. That means the crime already happened by the time the cops show up.

@pj

> In my opinion if you have to use guns to solve anything (even in case of the police) it means we as a society suck.

Then every society on earth sucks, and I wont disagree with that... Until you eliminate rape and violent acts from even being attempted then you will never be able to rely on cops. Cops will always be some distance away and it will always require you to have access to a phone and early enough warning make the phone call.

Usually if someone is being raped or held at knife point or assaulted in the overwhelming majority of cases there was never a chance to even reach out to the police in the first place.

So yes I am happy to eliminate guns, if the criteria for it is you must first eliminate all violent crimes so you can ensure we dont need those guns in the first place.

When a guy is twice your size physical defense training is perhaps going to help the womans odds slightly but she will still be at a huge disadvantage, afterall men and women can both get that same training so its not a equalizing force.

@thatguyoverthere @mike805 @lmrocha

@hasmis No I am saying the **entire** graph shows very clearly that the earth has consistently went through global warming from 1900's onward. The begining middle and end all show consistent HDD decreaing (which is equivelant to consistent warming since the 1900s).

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