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@realcaseyrollins @LouisIngenthron

So how are they allowed to bust up unions.. if someone company suspects you and bill talked to eachother and told eachother each of your salaries, sk now the lower paid of you can gondemand a raise... can thry say those twonpeople just unionized and fire them both? When does it count as a union?

@realcaseyrollins @LouisIngenthron

What are you making illegsl thrn.. people can unionize without the union formally existing, as long as everyone cooperates

@realcaseyrollins @LouisIngenthron

Oh and list the weight of the fattest person they arrested, like a bass fisherman. Maybe take photos with their catch on a scale ;)

@realcaseyrollins

I mean as long as those gangs arent doing anythi g legal, yea, a "gang" has every right to exist and is perfectly protected by the law.

In reality gangs imply illegal acts though so...

@LouisIngenthron

@LouisIngenthron

Not all govt employees have public pressure, really only elected ones.

I would be ok with elected officials not being able to unionize though.

I also might like the jdea of making all police in a city elected positions.

@realcaseyrollins

@realcaseyrollins @LouisIngenthron

I dont see how you can be antiunion and proconstitution... you are saying people cant talk and coordinate amongst eachother? I mean even blocking police unions is muddy water in my head

@LouisIngenthron @realcaseyrollins

Or they didnt burn your mail but are accused of it and the union protects them... they do deserve to be able to protect themselves and work together to do that... to a point.

@freemo @realcaseyrollins Agreed. Taxpayers are the customers and the employers. We *are* the police union. Any union they form separately is in direct opposition to the general public they're meant to serve.

@LouisIngenthron

I wouldnt say thats the reason.. I mean im ok with govt employees like a mailman having a union.

I just dont think people who have qualified immunity should have access to unions that can protect them from proper scrutiny and disciplin.

@realcaseyrollins

@jaysonmassey Best of luck.. lets hope philly sets an example with its results ;)

@realcaseyrollins while i normally have no problem with unions (assuming they are voluntary).. in the case of police i dont think they should have a right to unionize

@thatguyoverthere

It really is hard to get a good faith discussion.. I guess that would risk having to accept that maybe its not as clear cut as the talking points suggest

@mike805 @lmrocha @pj

@clacke

Yea a society where people dont feel pressure to wear masks, but also wont be judged if they do, is a good one in my eyes

@lzg

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