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@zack @MelodyCooper @pies

Again you dont use corelation if your doing honest science on this or any topic like it...

@pies @zack @MelodyCooper

No the murder rate of the uk is irrelevant, we dont argue correlation if your doing honest anaysis. We woukdnuse granger causality which woukd show the murder rate skyrocketed in the uk in the decade followi g their gun ban.

@pies @zack @MelodyCooper

You approach to analysis (correlation) is already invalid. So everything that comes from that is likewise invalid

@jaysonmassey yes its easier to kill someone witb a gun than a knife, but there are also far more easily accessible ways to kill people more effective than a knife.

5 minutes at a super market and you can get the ingredients for a poison or bomb, both of which kill en mass easier than a gun. So the whole argument falls apart lretty fast.

It also ignores the more important aspect. As a power equalizer it means a woman with a gun is far more likely to defend herself from rape or murder than a woman with a knife. So clearly it can just as easily act to **save** live as it can to take them. This is why your argument in that aspect is equivelant to the antivaxxer argument. It ignores the big picture.

@admitsWrongIfProven if you have a specific toot that reads that way id love to see it.

I suspect people get triggered and assume that when i saw nothing of the sort... i put 0 effort into mitigating other people making assumptions ;)

@jaysonmassey what japanese solution? Ba ing guns woukd sig ificantly reduce gun deaths... but also significantly increase stabbings, viokent acts, rape, and other non gun deaths. So describing that as a solution isnt accurate.

@admitsWrongIfProven I think ive been pretty co sistent on the backgrojnd check system.. the current system is very effective, other than addressing the private sale loophole i am all for using the current way backgroubd checks work, which is fairly effective outside of the mentioned loopholes.

Where can i clarify my stance, i do lean towards less regulation than most people, but i never claimed it shoukd be ubregulated

@jaysonmassey I wouldnt even describe it as common sense gun control.

They are measures trying to address perceived problems that have little or not impact on the results. I dont object to thrm largely because they do almost nothing in most cases. Only reason i might oject to them is simply being a waste of money to implement regulations that are likely to be 0 impact.

It is common to what the democrats do, pass laws that make people feel like they are addressing the problem when in reality their just putting on a show.

> "In 2018, Japan, a country of 125 million people, only reported nine deaths from firearms – compared with 39,740 that year in the United States, according to data compiled by the Sydney School of Public Health at the University of Sydney."

This statement seems random and unrelated to the topic. I mean deaths from vaccines are near 0 in countries that makes vaccines illegal too. So not sure whats trying to be said here but the way its frames seems fishy.

@admitsWrongIfProven If i contradicted myself feel free to point out where and i can hopefully address it.

@admitsWrongIfProven eh, its been good hearing everyones views. I dunno i have enough reach i probably contribute to this problem more than it would seem so even to me.

@admitsWrongIfProven

The gun discussion i entered into was largely to point out why we shouldnt have thr gun discussion, because its not important...

@realcaseyrollins yea thats probably the right choice ;)

@TheRealTraceyDelaney

Lawn darts arent banned, there is no law making thrn illegal. The company decided to stop making it due to being ubsafe, but no one banned them. In fact you can still buy them.