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@cobratbq Not sure I follow.. not sure how you dont know what your circumstance is... but we are way too meta for my brain right now :)

@trinsec Also this is the funniest thing you have ever said, you have now just leveled up :)

@trinsec I didnt even think of the princess bride scene when I asked, but yea that is the perfect layperson example really :)

question for everyone...

Is there a name for when an optimal strategy is avoided because the optimal strategy is easily defended against when you know the person is using it in the first place?

Or the reverse, where someone might intentionally use a very poor strategy specifically because the user would never expect a user to pick a poor strategy and thus, at least when assumed it wont be used, becomes a strong strategy?

@cobratbq what sort of circumstances we talking about? I would say the political correctness probably needs to be adjusted for the tolerances of the environment you are in.

The key to a happy life:

Be just politically incorrect enough to ensure all the toxic easily triggered people want nothing to do with you, but still kind enough that you dont actually cause anyone any real harm.

I've made a conscious effort to do this for years in most social settings and I need to say, I have a pretty awesome circle of friends.

@Gaythia yea plenty of explanations. Though in my expiernce the poll is fairly legitimate, the left will block people who disagree with their views pretty quickly politically. the right doesnt, but the right has other issues, they are far more likely to follow you around and troll you instead, so im not sure thats any better.

@freemo @LouisIngenthron Indeed too much variability could be a problem, yet i would argue the status quo selection of parties available in many societys lacks multiple positions much needed by the general populace.

The fact that many people vote with regard to what they expect to be a "wasted vote" might have part in keeping it that way. Strategic voting, a similar way of thinking, is also something i consider harmful to the democratic process.

@admitsWrongIfProven

I think its more fundemental than even that,, it comes down to what you mean by a two party system...

I think the two party system we have simply means "whatever two parties are the most popular, even if its marginally more so, will receive disperportionatly more votes.

Whether this translates tot he fact that other third parties will have a harder time breaking in (and thus a wasted vote) Id say is the part that is untrue, which is why we see third parties break in all the time and go from 1% to 51% in a single election cycle historically.

@LouisIngenthron

@LouisIngenthron @admitsWrongIfProven

Its only a theory called a law erroneously. And with the major larties switching 8 times in us history and multiple times in other similar voting systems it shows it is not a twonparty system in thr typical sense in that other parties can and do break in and typically the shifts are fairly radical causing them to get majority shares in only one or two election cyles, showing that other parties can and do compete.

@admitsWrongIfProven the two-party system is a myth. We have multiple parties and candidates on each ballot. We have also had 8 different majority parties over the course of the usa... it looks like twonparties simply because americans were convinced thats how it work and have this idiotic idea that if they vote for anyone else its a wasted vote.

@admitsWrongIfProven there is that... but we may be talki g about people who are jjst mildly democrats and not to tbe extreme end.. leaning left but close to center.

@admitsWrongIfProven there is absolutely a strong skew, but if i had to speculate id say its a bit of both at play... but hey whats worse democrats probably block more but republicans probably replace blocking with trolling more often. So it doesnt really say that much about true tolerance either way

@admitsWrongIfProven possibly. But the results are so extrmely skewed (0 to 12) that youd need a pretty extreme skew in the population participating in the poll as well. Of the two kt seems far more reasonable that the population is t so extremely skewed

@admitsWrongIfProven Not at all. I dont think anyone would consider this a high quality randomly sampled data point.

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