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@JonKramer Im too new at shooting to really have a strong opinion. All I know is I asked two very expiernced shooters (one of them being hte owner of the range) and they all said something between 7 and 15 yards. When I told them i shot at 20yards they pointed out thats farther than most people shoot handguns.

@icedquinn If the broad side of a barn happens to mug me it will be damn sorry!

@JonKramer most people shoot handguns somewqhere between 7 yards and 15 yards, so 20 yards is already quite far for a pistol from what I'm told.

@AmpBenzScientist I was using a scope, standing without any tripod (though my gun does have a bipod on it, I wasnt using it)

@pafdex we are a fork of mastodon, our version doesnt relate to mastodon versions.

@hans Well no, ive talked many times about ststistical analysis of guns and shown in the past how quite the opposite is true, that when you pass laws that restrict guns the deathtoll on homicides and violent acts sky rocket. Ive used dozens of different cou tries ststistics to demonstrate this.

The problem is most people dont really understand how to apply statistics for good analysis so you get a lot of misinformation on this that relies on poor principles (like casual correlation rather than proper causality tests)

@EricOlson your concerns are addressable. We used hollow points or special bullets that disintigrate in the homr to make sure thr bullet cant go through walls or people. My habdgun for the home takes hollow point bullets as well as shotgun shells.

Someone with a knife isnt usually the top concern, its people with illegal guns that are generally the issue. Whether you have time or not is another matter. Its also not always abouy someone targetting you, you may just wind up as a bystander who is the hero with a gun too. There are just too many examples of people saving lives with guns to discount the possibility anyway, we know it can save lives because we see so many examples of it.

@EricOlson I mean, its straightforward... so if someone wants to kill you you can make sure they dont.

@hans Yup thats how the world works. Even if you have a perfect police force if someone wants to kill you you will be dead long before even the quickest cop has a chance to be on the scene. Short of eliminating crime (which no society has yet to accomplish) a gun woukd be the only way you might survive

I thought i was do e buyi g guns, but saw this beauty and coukdnt help myself. The all metal Baretta 92x Performance.

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