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Work is when someone tells me to make him stuff, and if i do it they give me little IOU's that I am then allowed to use to buy back a portion of the things I just made for him. Those IOUs are even interchangable with other workers from other companies who get the same deal.

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The rich are just as careless as the non-rich.. they have more money so individually they do more harm (just as the good ones do more good), but there are also far far fewer of them. So collectively the few rich are probably doing the same harm as the many non-rich.

Moreover, the rich are only rich because we choose to make them rich. You can shop at a mom and pop store, or you can choose to shop at amazon. That on you... so the rich are the consequence of the middle class anyway, and the choices they make. So no matter how you slice it the point of "blame the rich" is a moot one.

To put some perspective on it... the non-rich engage in about 100,000 flights perday on commercial jets. The rich engage in 1.10th that, 10,000 flights a day. Their planes are also considerably smaller than commercial jets so in terms of harm is far far less than 1/10th... So collectively the non-rich (base on this one small metric) are doing maybe 100x the harm as the rich.

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The end goal may not be their conscious will, but the steps to get there are. How many people are running their AC, leaving their lights on, throwing trash out their window... billions. Not because they want to die a horrible death, but because they want to be comfortable now and dont care if it fucks everyone over to do it.

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Im not so sure there are is some evil few in charge against a mass of divded people...

I think most of the evil in the world is carried out as a collective will... the "leaders" just emerge from that tendency.

We are all, each of ius a small part of the evil boogie man and if we want to start fixing the problems we have to look at the small-time individuals and not the leaders.

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@hisa0808 For some reason that almost looks like 8-bit graphics at first.

@Baley Most of the time thats what i do... only time i block is when the noise drowns out the signal.

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Hahah my purpose was to exemplify the fact that morality, especially in the face of people dying, cant be reduce to a set of rules (no matter how complex)... It is a subtle matter with no real objective answers.

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The answer would need the context of what was happening in the episode. I gave you a link to the synopsis of the episode. Once you read it we can discuss what the answer might be in that scenario if you'd like.

Laira: I mourned my husband for a hundred days. I never left my house, I never spoke to anyone.

O'Neail: After that?

Laira: I left my house, and I spoke to people.

-- Stargate SG-1

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One of the best lines from the series.

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Full context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

Data : Would you choose one life over one thousand, sir?

Picard : I refuse to let arithmetic decide questions like that.

-- Star Trek (I think TNG)

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