🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@coolboymew

Yes I do, because while I dont think servers should force a block list on a user I do think the user should have the option to block and an easy path to do so if thats what they want. If there is a user that wants low-moderated instances blocked they should have that choice and easy access to a block list to accomplish it.

I myself dont use the block list, but I do understand its need for some users.

It is also an attempt to address the usability issue I mentioned earlier while not needing to block at the instance level... a possible middle ground solution.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

On that point I wholly agree. We have never caved to third party pressure in that regard.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

I am kinda suprised how much pleasure cleaning my keyboard and adding new colorful keycaps has added for me... I am enjoying my time at my computer more.

@Moon

I mean, there is a reason you guys are still federated with... but as I said it is getting closer and closer to being impossible to maintain a nearly-open federation policy from a purely usability standpoint... we arent there yet though.

That said i am working on technological solutions.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

I have no issue with people dogpiling if its directly related to the topic, even if they are calling someone an idiot.

We are talking about dog piling that usually has nothing constructive to say and is just word salad of insults most of the time.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

SureI do agree there are levels to this and blocking can be quite excessive.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

You can figure that for yourself by going through my feed if you really care to. That isnt an exercise I need to invest time in since I dont see much value coming from that exercise.

If I actually cared about proving my point that would be a good way to do it. I just dont have the energy to care enough to go through all that.

If you'd like I can start tagging you when dogpiles kick in so you can see them though if you really care.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@coolboymew

It probably doesnt happen to you because you are one of the trolls, or at least, close enough to them (you arent as bad as most which is why i never blocked you)... But generally the people who dont participate in the trolling, particularly as a server, are the ones targeted.

I expiernce this a few times a week personally and as an admin have had quite a few of my users complain about the same problem.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

I am talking about blocking other servers, not the rules internal to your own instance.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute and people are hoping instances and bringing up small one-user domains those 3 seconds become a big load.. especially when most of us wont block a domain the moment a single person throws a fit. Its usually only after several incidents someone decides to block. So thats a lot of noise per-domain someone must endure before they silence that one domain, one domain among a great many needing blocking for some.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

Like i said before I am not "blamming" anyone.. Fault is a rather pointless concept... I am mearly stating that free speech is an idea I support but supporting is starting to become technically difficult causing people to adopt a non-free speech approach as its the only option that allows the fediverse to be usable for most people.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

Its not about that... users can do the blocking themselves (and for now thats how we do it)... but it becomes a full time job for most of our users blocking instances on their own that, without doing so, means the system is barely usable.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

@Moon

I run QOTO, an instance that strongly leans towards open federation, but locally doesnt allow free speech (our users will be banned for certain forms of speech, though we are rather forgiving in this regard).

While we do sometimes have valuable interactions from free speech instances the issue is the overwhelming majority of interaction is from them dog piling and trolling with overtly racist and aggressive attacks. It is often so bad you cant even use the service without blocking most free speech instances...

Blame who you want but even an instance like QOTO that wants to remain open is struggling to do so because it just makes the service unusable.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@Moon

Ideas like fault is pointless. Its not about who is to blame and who is to not.

The fact of the matter is the freespeech section of the fediverse has went out of their way to attack and abuse people who federate with them to the point that it is very hard to take a freespeech stance and still be appealing to most people.

@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

@coolboymew

Seems most of the fediverse have dug their feet in on that already. Sadly the freespeech instances have done everything in their power to convince people not to adopt that side of the fence.

@McMongoose @Moon @tomey

well... time to bring up an aprs-is server.. should be easy, doesnt even use a database.

@ElemWiz It really did

@ned

The beer one I can 100% agree with, nothing but bigotry. Less so, but I do tend to agree somewhat on Little Mermaid. I mean, I do get the need for accuracy against the book, and she is white there. Moreover it just makes logical sense (a species evolved out of the sun would be white). But it isnt super critical to the story so I dont really get why its a big deal other than bigotry.

Barbie I havent seen much comments on either way, so I have no opinion.

@freepeoplesfreepress I loved it too, I agree... They made fun of their script and how cliche it was, sot hey were aware. Which is probably the only reason I can find it more funny and less cringe in the first place.