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@sergeant The Netherlands is my favorite country <3

@lucifargundam

Or that :)

@admitsWrongIfProven @Pat

@amoshiashwili

They arent people who are working? The what now?

also no, I addressed your second point already. If they had inside information about corruption, then yes, you should hold them accountable. Now if your expecting them to act on corruption becoming publicly known, there is a formal system in place to investigate those claims and act on them. It is not an employees responsiblity to determine their bosses innocence or guilt, or to hold him accountable for it.

@opendna @heidilifeldman

@lucifargundam @admitsWrongIfProven @Pat

Agreed the sort of sentient AI concerns are a ways away at the moment and not really where the initials issues will arise.

The real issues with AI is going to be far more nuanced than that... the fact that it learns from humans (usually) and therefore can learn things like racism unintentionally.

@cuibonobaby I never said the issue was organization vs individual.. they arent a political party, they arent a political individual. They are neither. What they are is an organization whose purpose it is to harass minorities.

@markusl @nilikm

> I believe mask-wearing is still advisable because Covid causes long-term disability, and because patients are infectious before they have symptoms (if, indeed, they ever get them).

With COVID being here to stay that means we would be commiting to wear masks forever (or atleast many decades)... That is an unreasonable ask for society to wear masks forever. I dont think that is reasonable.

> I'm not arguing against open-plan offices: I'm asking against dragging everyone into offices when there's no point. (I'm a software developer, and so I'm more productive at home than when distracted by office chatter.)

In principle I agree, we really dont need to be in offices and working remote for most jobs makes logical sense even without COVID being a consideration. So in that sense I support this.

But requiring companies to do this rather than letting it be the choice of the owner, that doesnt seem reasonable to me.

@markusl @nilikm

I am have been working as a COVID research scie tist for the past 2 years. One thing i can say with fairly good certainty at this point is that COVID will never be over. It i, like the flu, is here to stay. That said we can take best practices measures when dealing with it like we do with most common illnesses.

Mask wearing makes sense if your sick and around people or they are sick. For the general population, not so much anymore, thats over the top.

Better ventilation is probably a good idea to address disease in general so i can get behind that.

If people cant get vaccinated thats a problem, better vaccine access for sure too if thats an issue there.

Businesses allowing for open floor plans seems fine to allow, to restrict that also seems overkill to me.

@cuibonobaby No, how is being in the KKK and an assocition with a political figure? It is an organization, not a person, it isnt a political party nor contain any politicians.

@cuibonobaby How in the world did you get that from what I just said? Being in the KKK is not a political association.

@realcaseyrollins now do 4-chan :)

@MattFerrel

You: Hahaha they can get other jobs and feed their family

Also you: We need to boycott them and make sure they cant get any jobs!

@ThatPrilla @heidilifeldman

@cuibonobaby appreciate the intellectual honesty on that reply, thanks.

@cuibonobaby

How has my original position changed? huh

The new information I responded to was the assertion that they could probably find new jobs easily enough. My original position never asserted that them being unable to find new work is the only reason that would justify them being a clerk, so how did I move the goalposts?

@cuibonobaby LOL as if adapting ones position when new information is learned is a bad thing.

@cuibonobaby Thats not what im saying.. what im saying is even nazi's werent found guilty simply for having hitler as a "boss"

@ThatPrilla

For the corruption component I see two sides... Before the corruption was exposed they may not have known, so i wont hold that against them unless specific evidence surfaces they knew... After the corruption was exposed its not their responsibility to judge or investigate if the corruption is legitimate. There are mechanisms in place for that already and that is where that should be decided.

@heidilifeldman

@ThatPrilla

Regardless, even if they could find a job, no this is wrong without actively reviewing their specific actions. They may very well be offering dissenting opinions to Thomas and very much trying to push him the opposite direction.

These sort of idiotic blanket boycots on people simply by association, particularly employment, is not the way to go on any level.

@heidilifeldman

@chapulin_enojado

1) They may be aware, they may not.. If you can show they were aware and didnt make any illegal actions public then youve got my support.

2) Starving because you cant afford to eat is a gun against your head. You are assuming they have offers for working 500K at some other law firm, they may not.

3) Again then demonstrate specific things the clerk did wrong and you have my support... If they created a draft that was their own opinion and not at the direction of Thomas, and it has damning stuff in it, then by all means share it and Ill be happy to support any resistance against such a person.

@opendna @heidilifeldman

@ThatPrilla

Yes they are, and who they worked for should not change that. Now if they actively did anything on their own then by all means hold it against them. Thomas's decisions arent their own, nor do they necessarily have the luxury to quit.

@heidilifeldman

@chapulin_enojado

Even nazis dont qualify as war criminals just by being nazis. The ones who we find guilty actively gave orders rather than just following them. The reason is the same, much like people have to eat and work you'd get shot and killed if you stood up against your commander int he nazi army.

@opendna @heidilifeldman