🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@stux In terms of lies I think there is some truth there. But I think it has less to do with them intentionally lying and more to do with the fact that the right tends to be less educated than the left, so I think that is more the higher idiocy levels with see more so than intentionally lying (plenty of that too but the intentional sort of lies Id say are equal to left and right).

As for the far rights extreme on my views... I mean yea I agree, but I see the same super extreme on the left. I've heard as many on the left call for white genocide as those on the right calling for minority genocide, for example (and for the record its a small minority on both sides in that regard). Or take taxes, I've heard views from the left that supports pure communism (100% tax rate) which matches the extreme nature of some of the most extreme on the right who call for no or nearly no taxes.

@stux

Less extremes in what sense? Ideological?

@stux I mean thats true of left wing too.. a few super rich billionairs make up most of the lefts narrative just like on the right.

@stux Right-wing a few years back felt like it was dying off. Then left-wing went to super extremist mode and then the right-wing saw a resurgance in response.. now i cant tolerate either side anymore.

@mk Virtually every war that ever existed would be illegal.

@stux As far as I know... no.. the ICC has a international law that would make it illegal "Crimes of Aggression". But russia isnt under ICC jurisdiction.

@stux wait, illegal war? I mean we all agree its immoral im sure, but wars arent legal or illegal.

@sergeant

As an amphibriologist I also study amphetamines and their effects on the fibrulation of hearts of amphibians.. its a very narrow niche

@lowqualityfacts

@lowqualityfacts

IT is true, I am an amphibiorologist. What people mistake for frogs in Europe are in fgact froegs, a completely unrelated, but also identical walk of life. Like american frogs you can lick them.

@arctangent Im trying to pick smells that are less scents and more like actual wood smell. Basically only really smells.

@arctangent i dont like liquid colognes, too chemical.. the solid colognes are usually more natural due to the fact that they arent expecting to be as strong (though last much longer).

Im happy to avoid liquid colognes and stick with solid.

@arctangent As far as I can tell the smell doesnt last that long from the shaving cream anyway. I bought some solid cologne to offset that :)

@sfrazer434

You are a pro at moving that goal post... First it was because I said the black person was wrong.. then when i showed you quotes saying just the opposite now its "not a conversation" lolol.. just keep moving those goal posts till your right!

Sadly your right this isnt a conversation, because im the only one actually trying to engage in good faith here.

@sfrazer434

> “These arent mutual exclusive... “ your failure to communicate is on you, not the people who read your words.

Spoken like someone who hears what they want to hear rather than what is being said.

The failure to communicate is on both of us. It is up to me to communicate clearly and up to you to ask questions if you dont understand something.

In this case since I have direct quotes of whatI said that directly contradict your claim it seems to me the fialure is on you for not taking the time to carefully read what was said

@sfrazer434 Heres the thing, you heard exactly what you wanted to with no connection to reality...

What I did say:

> If someone wants to be a terrorist, that is a mental health issue.

Never said anything about right or wrong, black or white... I said there was a health issue at play, essentially what you said I should say, that he should have sought therapy (what is implied by saying they had a mental health issue).

At no point did I "defend" the actions in any way, in fact later I even reiterated quite the opposite with:

> We shouldnt use it as an excuse or a free pass... it should be used as a focus on where our energy should go, in helping to make people mentally healthy so they dont do this sort of stuff, not as an excuse to give them a pass.

@sfrazer434 I beg to differ. If a nazi is actively seeking therapy it is very likely they are going to change their ways. I cant tell you how many times ive seen a horribly racist and violent person change their ways after a serious commitment to therapy.

@sfrazer434

> then your definition of “mentally ill” is so broad as to be meaningless.

Yes, as with many valid concepts it is very broad and effects a lot of people. Hardly meaningless because it represents people who could be helped by therapy and a conscious attempt to be a mentally healthy individual. So while broadly applicable it is quite meaningful.

> And it ignores completely justifiable violence, such as self-defense.

Doesnt ignore it at all. I never said all violent acts, I said violent people. Someone who only commits violence to prevent a greater violence is not a violent person.

@sfrazer434

No you are just hung up on words... I am talking "mentally unhealthy"... you are talking "Pyschosis" which is an entierly different medical category. While I am not claiming everyone who is violent has psychosis they are mentally ill as wanting to hurt people is, by definition, a mentally unhealthy trait.

@YakyuNightOwl

And for the record being mentally ill doesnt mean you "dont make the choice".. you can still be responsible for your actions and mentally ill at the same time.

We shouldnt use it as an excuse or a free pass... it should be used as a focus on where our energy should go, in helping to make people mentally healthy so they dont do this sort of stuff, not as an excuse to give them a pass.