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@realcaseyrollins Oh my mistake :)

@realcaseyrollins I mean, these are just the english rules from like 500 years now :) You can find sex and gender clearly a sepretaly defined in older dictionaries... this isnt new :)

@thor you certainly arent wrong that spending on things that make you mentally healthy and happy are neccesary too.. Im not claiming you shouldnt be spending on anything... My only point is, cutting back on those small every day expenses absolutely is a mentality and practice needed to get out of poverty.

@thor Very true, but as someone who has played the game and won, and who have helped many people do the same (I tutor others to be successful, and many times given homeless people a place to live along with that to get them to a place of success)... with that expiernce I'd say I have a pretty good knowledge base to judge what isnt and isnt effective.

@JoBlakely

I dunno, the ruling seems like a good one since, as I stated, it absolutely makes cultural assumptions and violates freedom of expression.

But i do agree its kinda small compared to the real sorts of racism out there and the kinds of rulings that mean something that we should be seeing and dont.

@LilHulkQ

@thor Not in the least... it really adds up and is quite vital to getting out of poverty... I speak as someone who started life in the welfare system and found my way out.

@thor Every rich person I have ever known has been frugal with small day to day expenses both before they got rich and after.

While you can of course be successful without the need for that, it is a mentality and approach that, more often than not, is necessary to see success.

@LilHulkQ

GTFO with that toxic shit.. I am sincerely here trying to better understand the perspective in the hopes I can adopt it. The disgusting toxic shit you two are trying to do to make that seem like some racist undertone is disgusting. Especially when, as someone who is not white myself, is part of a victim of that same discrimination, so clearly I would care.

Shame on you for creating a toxic environment where minorities cant simply discuss topics in the hope to understand a perspective without being villanized...

And for the record no one made any "relentless request" of you or anyone.. what a disgusting way to frame an earnest question asked in the open for anyone who **Wants** to answer it.

You **ARE** the problem, not the solution, at this point you are almost indistinguishable from the right trolling people with good intent.

@JoBlakely

Remember everyone, we have gotten to the point where sincerely wanted to understand a liberals opinion and politely and respectfully ask for their views in an attempt to consider them.... we call that sealioning now... yup.. and people wonder why so many people are all of a sudden supporting fring right wing shit... people like this have pushed all the rational people away from the left towards the middle and in some cases even all the way onto the right.

@lxo

Except that the current infection rates arent even half of what they were at the begining in the UK nor 1/10th of what they were in the begining in the USA.

So this is a lie that ultimately helps the anti-vaxxers since it suggests the vaccine did nothing, when in fact it made a HUGE difference in rates.

@JoBlakely Sincerely trying to understand a perspective is now sealioning... yea get out of here with that toxic anti-growth BS... you arent wanted.

@DemDifference Shame on you for showing non-normalized values.. I thought we were supposed to be the good guys sticking to facts?

@me_valentijn

I certainly do agree rules like this should not be allowed. For tons of reasons, and cultural discrimination, accidental or otherwise, is certainly one of them.

@LilHulkQ

@me_valentijn

Thanks for trying to answer, it is very much appreciated.

> It certainly is discriminatory in multiple ways, but what matters is that some of them are violating rights as a result of someone's identity in a protected class.

I guess this is what im trying to understand better. I see how it is discriminatory in general to damn near everyone, minority or not, in different ways.. but how it targets protected classes (minorities mostly) over nonprotected is what im trying to better understand here.

> It's easy for White hair to conform with those rules. Whereas Black children are left with few and often unreasonable options.

So if i understand the argument here isnt so much that long hair is more important to the identity of a minority than a white or anything like that. But your saying blacks with long hair dont have options to put it up and conform where whites do?

Is that something you could explain because im not sure i understand why a white person with long hair can put it up and has options where a black person can... cant both groups, despite their difference in hair wear it up? In fact, isnt it **easier** for blacks due to the nature of their hair than whites (in the sense that most black hair needs to be straightened to be long enough to fall past the shoulders where straight white hair is more natural).

Obviously i am probably missing something culturally important here, something to do with black hair I suspect.. Im just not sure what that is and would love to understand it better.

@LilHulkQ

@kilroy_was_here haha yea they have more space there.

But check out a APRS map sometime, you might be surprised how active the east coast is :)

@kilroy_was_here coil based traps yea :) All on the roof on my philly home, so very small footprint.

@kilroy_was_here Yup.. plus radials which you can see in my first reply.

@me_valentijn

Hmm I think I see the logic there... the idea that "short hair is professional" is generally a white-culture thing and therefore unfair to apply that in law, even if applied to black and white equally.

I will have to think on that point a bit, but I see where its going, sounds reasonable at first glance and is generally in line with why i am against dress codes in genera.

However the other side i am pondering is if "long hair is bad" is really a white culture thing at all.. afterall long hair being seen as normal and professional has been the case in both white and black cultures. It seems to me it is discriminatory against most cultures both black and white. Which makes it wrong and discriminatory still, just not sure if its so explicitly anti-black, its really just anti-expression of any culture.

@LilHulkQ