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@Baley You have the energy to put on pajamas on your day off? I'm impressed!

What name do you like best for a non-profit community for Ham Radio? Think Apache incubator but for Ham plus other open-source services and resources for the community.

FYI I have both the dot com and dot org as well as the hyphenated and non hyphenated versions of the below. Please mention which variant you prefer in comments.

So apparently I just realized when i first started as a ham over a decade ago I participated in an E-M-E contact (Earth-Moon-Earth). I had no idea what it was at the time but i see in my notes it just says "EME net?" and now as a more expiernced ham i literally know I was talking with someone by bouncing our signals off the moon..... soooo cool.

@dd0ul wasnt too happy ar first glane... Finally decided to host a CloudLog.

Thanks for the answer

@TruthSandwich

I am not trolling..

Yes I've done the math..

There have been 59 elections for president in the history of the USA... in that time 8 of those have been elections where a third party from a previous year was one of the two top parties in the current election.

In all those cases the third parties the year before a switch had about the same support as they do now in terms of percentage, and the next year shot up to 50%+

that works out to a 13.5% chance in any one election of a third party with ~2% support or less from a previous year will win that year.

If we look at recent history points of note the last time one came close was Ross perot in 1992 at nearly 20% of the vote, and of course in the early part of 19th centraully where was also a third party coming into the top two.

While all of that does suggest a third party is certainly the long-shot... to say impossible is just not factual... Depending on how you look at iut there is a 13.5% chance at best, at worst maybe a 5% chance of them winning.

Voting for the non-evil choice with a 5% chance I will take any day than voting for teh super-evil choice who is just a tiny bit less evil than the other super-evil choice just because he had a 40% change of winning.

Thats not a strategically wise tradeoff for me.

@AmpBenzScientist

@AmpBenzScientist French is the language I am, by comparison, the worst at... I think even chinese is easier for me honestly.

@TruthSandwich

I am not trolling..

Yes I've done the math..

There have been 59 elections for president in the history of the USA... in that time 8 of those have been elections where a third party from a previous year was one of the two top parties in the current election.

In all those cases the third parties the year before a switch had about the same support as they do now in terms of percentage, and the next year shot up to 50%+

that works out to a 13.5% chance in any one election of a third party with ~2% support or less from a previous year will win that year.

If we look at recent history points of note the last time one came close was Ross perot in 1992 at nearly 20% of the vote, and of course in the early part of 19th centraully where was also a third party coming into the top two.

While all of that does suggest a third party is certainly the long-shot... to say impossible is just not factual... Depending on how you look at iut there is a 13.5% chance at best, at worst maybe a 5% chance of them winning.

Voting for the non-evil choice with a 5% chance I will take any day than voting for teh super-evil choice who is just a tiny bit less evil than the other super-evil choice just because he had a 40% change of winning.

Thats not a strategically wise tradeoff for me.

@AmpBenzScientist

quinn reads the .net spec for some reason 

@icedquinn

Why did i read this as "quinn reads the .net spec and then puts it int he basket"

@TruthSandwich

Great, then you shouldnt have much need to keep blasting the two-party conspiracy theory nonsense my way.

@AmpBenzScientist

@AmpBenzScientist

A drug trade doesnt create wealth usually.. I mean if i sell heroin, heroin itself doesnt really have utility (as it only harms people)... and ultimately leads people to behave in ways that are wealth destroying... so no... that wouldnt generate wealth, it would be one of the main examples of destroying wealth.

@LouisIngenthron @admitsWrongIfProven

@TruthSandwich

correct I wont vote for a cannidate who is just as bad as Trump, maybe worse (iswitch who i think is worth day to day)... just because it might cause one candidate i dont want as president to loose to be replaced by another candidate I also dont like..

Im not sure how you dont understand that even if i but your two party nonsense all that will prove to me to me all votes will cause harm, which makes me put 0 value in a vote and is just more likely to push me to a third because at least then im not voting for Trump or his senile evil twin.

@AmpBenzScientist

@TruthSandwich

Well I guess I have to vote for Trump then... Id be throwing away my vote if I voted for biden, I dont think he would stand a chance against Trump. I mean sure Trump is literally the anti-christ, but id be throwing away my vote on biden, so I guess I have to vote Trump...

@AmpBenzScientist

@TruthSandwich

Sure.. i guess im a republican who has never voted republican and only ever voted for democrat or third party.. sure ill take that hilarious label.

@AmpBenzScientist

@TruthSandwich

Its not a protest vote.. its a vote for the ideology we think has any hope of saving the world

@AmpBenzScientist

@AmpBenzScientist

Despite being a registered republican I have once voted for a republican outside of primaries.

I have voted in the past either for the Libertarian party, independent, or the Democrats.

@TruthSandwich

@AmpBenzScientist I looked into desantis, I think he might even be worse than trump if thats possible...

What is your favorite `non causa pro causa` fallacy?

@thor I cant speak to your language. But as someone who is particularly aweful at learning new languages I can say of all the languages I ever attempted the non-dead language I found the easiest would be German.

That said of all languages I am best at latin, and even that not anywhere near great... I think it being a deadlanguage no one is alive to correct my bad pronunciation either :)

@LouisIngenthron I think its possible a judge might decide to be less harsh in his punishment of you... I think it would be a bit of a crap shoot and just depends on the judge you get maybe and what impression it makes on him... and i only think it is likely to have much of an effect, if any, in sentencing.

But hey, what the fuck do I know.

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