🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@djcp

No they arent.

@realcaseyrollins

By the way I do agree its emotional for many. But keep in mind as a person who has spent some time living and working there just recent it is likely a bit more personal for me than your average person.

@realcaseyrollins

> I’m not saying that facts are whataboutism 😂 I’m saying that it’s whataboutism for the primary response to actions of terror from #Hamas to be “well what about #Israel”

Where did I say that? I mentioned nothing about hamas acting in response to israels terrorism, or vice versa.

> I have yet to see anyone who has argued that #Israel also performs acts of terror spend more time talking about what #Hamas has done than what #Israel has done. 🤷🏾‍♂️

My post just explained that both israel and hamas has done terrorism. Nothing about my post focused on one side more than the other... So this post itself is a counter example to the very thing your saying people dont do.

> I’m not saying that you’re a sympathizer of #Hamas though, don’t get me wrong. I think this is a touchy and emotional subject for everyone, and I’ll admit it, myself included.

Dont worry I know you argue in good faith and respecfully even when we disagree strongly. You are good.

@realcaseyrollins

How are actual recorded facts, investigated and proven by third party agents.. "What about ism"... they are actual confirmed things that happened, thats the exact opposite of what aboutism.

Just a reminder, #Israel (along witht he hamas) both have a well recorded history of using children as human shields during military conflicts, targeting civilian populations recklessly, enacting punishment intentionally on civilians, and generally engaging in terrorism.

These arent speculation, they have been called out many many times by Amnesty International, the UN and many other international bodies...

If you want to be appaled at terrorism in Israel you cant do so objectively if you forgive either side.

I have my first meeting with the #Freemason fraternity next Wednesday. It will be the first step for me, potentially, joining. It will just be a dinner to meet everyone.

We are all hostages to what we love. The only way to truely be free is to love nothing. -- Q in Picard

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@mjambon

Yea that guy is an absolute gem.. one of my favorite watching

My favorite is him ending every video with "go fuck yourself" lolol LOVE HIM!

@strawd

@nithou we both learned something knew, awesome!

@ceoln Didnt even know seas could be subsets of other seas... good to learn that then :)

@nithou Oh really? I didnt know a Sea could be considered part of a larger sea.. I guess its like counties in a country.. but a new idea to me.

@nithou I think franch touches the Belearic sea only.. but id need to see where the exact borders of the seas are to be sure.

@peterdrake Why do you have a replica of my desk in the physics building? :)

@realcaseyrollins

I dont think both sides want the other dead.. but both sides are unwilling to comrpomise.

Ehther you agree with it or not, remember the palestianians had the land to themselves for many many generations and are proud of that. Most palestinian families if you go into their home have a family tree going back hundreds of years of their roots in palestine.

In their mind there is no compromise, they were there for as long as modern history records (in fact the Jewish claim to the region is a biblical one, not historical). So nothing short of the Israelis either leaving, or at least creating a single shared nation is an option.. thing is in a one state solution with democracy the palestinians outnumber the jews, so they would win democratically.

The jews will never accept a one state solution, the only solution they will accept is if their allowed to steal the land, they proide the option of stealing a lot of land, or a lot of land minus a tiny bit... and they wont settle for anything less.

Neither side sees anywhere where compromise exists as being an option.

So no, not because of hate, but because of what they want I dont think the two sides will ever create peace **on their own**.. now if we invaded, deposed both governments, dissolved the border and spent years there trying to setup a transitional govt .. then yea, you might see peace.

@mushroom_soup

@realcaseyrollins

You worded that wrtong again you m3eant to say "Pelestine defending themselves and being wiped out by israel is genocide and ends the war"...

You can **not** call it defense when Israel are objectively the invaders. You cant even say they are reclaiming land they lost 2000+ years ago as they arent, the land they occupy is not the same borders asa the original israel.. the current borders are in acentrally arabic lands that was not the Jews.

@mushroom_soup

@realcaseyrollins

**Palestine** does not want to kill all jews. A few terrorists do who rule by fear do...

Terrorists that only really gained traction due to the poor living conditions and abuse under israel of the people (you do that you get radicalism, it isnt right but it is an expected consequence)

Moreover there are plenty of Israelis who want to kill all Palestinians, about in equal proportion as the other side. But it wouldnt be fair to say Israel wants to kill all Palestinians either, their leaders certainly do though.

@mushroom_soup