🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@realcaseyrollins

How is blanket bombing an area not going to result in more pelstinian deaths.

But your right, there would be more israeli deaths int he short term.. but thats war.. you dont commit genocide/terrorism just so yoru own soldiers arent "at risk".. if that was acceptable might as well just nuke them and be done with it.

@mzan

@LouisIngenthron That is just so idiotic... dont get me wrong I'd love to see a valid reason to sue facebook (and im sure there are a few)... but that is just idiotic.

@realcaseyrollins

In a ground assult they can still just bomb it and move in.. blanket bomb an area, move in, secure, and take it for yourself.

Which is probably what they are scared they will do, especially given their track record of doing just that, and then keeping the land for themselves (ya know, rather than focusing on the hamas)

@mzan

@realcaseyrollins

A ground offensive can kill more people, it can kill less... it largely depends on how its executed... Since Israel used palestinian children as shields during similar encounters int he past I am sure they are scared that israel wouldnt go in and handle a ground offensive responsibly. I assume you saw the recording of where they were calling palestinians "animals" and how they were going to deprive them of water and electricity and all that.... Obviously they arent in the headspace to even know how to be less aggressive.

@mzan

@realcaseyrollins

Dude you dont need **more aggressive** tactics to get rid of Hamas, you need **less aggressive** ones... How do you think killing mostly civilians will ever get rid of hamas short of completely killing off the whole population (which is the land ownership jackpot).

Thats exactly why its so obvious they intentionally keep the hamas around... they have put **way** more effort and death in play than would have ever been neccesary. A proper attack would have ground units going in and eliminating the hamas directly, not blanket bombing neighboorhoods and cutting off electyrcity.

Plus going in and only targeting hamas means less civilians dead and thus **less** support for hamas in the first place.

@mzan

@realcaseyrollins

I think the people want a resolution for sure.. .the govt doesnt want hamas to go away, they have been their biggest ally, hamas has been the reason they were able to justify taking so much land.

@mzan

@mzan oh it will be resolved.. there just wont be any palestinians left alive on the other end of that "resolution"

@mjambon because its intentional.. if theyactually solved the problem then they couldnt justift stealing more land. I mean afterall what is easier stealing 60% of the land and having to force relocate an entire people... or eliminate the hamas and install a transitional govt? But they would never eliminate the hamas, the hamas is Israel's biggest ally, they keep doing exactly what Israel needs to justify their genocide.

@realcaseyrollins yea the 5k is cummulative

@realcaseyrollins that is one of them. Notice it has phrases like "According to OCHA 91 Palestinians have been killed".. in that case OCHA is the group that did the reporting.

@realcaseyrollins for the article or the situational report... I just closed it again but i can find you a situational report if you want.

@realcaseyrollins Do you not follow the UN's reporting of the situation? They mention it a bit indirectly in the article I posted (listing individual situational reports along side specific numbers of specific groups). But the reading of their articles in general it is quite clear the reporting is coming from the situational reports that **they** issue which includes the up to date numbers and death tolls.. one such report is linked int he article we are discussing.

In those reports it goes through and lists each incident, the deaths, and which UN agency on the ground reported it.. the un is all about keeping the other groups accountable so they go out of their way to keep a detailed accounting of who is reported, why, and from what source, most of which are UN sources. Just read throught he UN reporting they make it quite clear what the chain of accountability is.

@freepeoplesfreepress Napping and sleep isnt so much my issue. I get enough of that. I need more recreation though.

@realcaseyrollins There are a **lot** of those reports. I cant say I added them up myself. But the UN at least claims those reports as a source for those numbers, so I presume they did the math, I tend to trust the UN enough that they would not lie so outright.

@realcaseyrollins They dont, they come from multiple sources, the Hamas, as well as various groups ont he ground. The individual situational reports list the incidents and death tolls and which group reports it.

@realcaseyrollins They cite the specific sources for individual situational death tolls in the situation report. Most of them come from UN groups in the latest report at least.

@realcaseyrollins They have come from multiple sources inteh area (as the UN explained)...

Well Israel murdered 5000 peoplesince oct 7, 400 int he last 24 hours. Of those murdered 40% were children.

Its like every time Hamas goes terrorist the Israelis need to to out-terrorist them and then they get surprised when things dont get better....

@realcaseyrollins Nevermind, I was qwrong. I just reread it and found it. It was 400 in the last 24 hours, 5000 since oct 7.

Ill delete my post and repost

@realcaseyrollins Fair point.. the one that said it was 24 hours was new york post but i dont have that link anymore.