🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

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> It's basically Elon complaining that people who know what they're talking about and those that have a scientific or other educational background are the ones spending time on making sure Wikipedia is accurate, which is true.

Yes and no.. While the quality of WP is fine it is clear it is not that simple. I have seen countless times where a person with less credentials won an editing war simply because they were a more established editor.

While, generally, better quality editors do tend to rise in ranks it is clear what he said was true, it is a hiarachical system that isnt weighting editors solely by their credentials. I mean this is inevitable since that is hard to do on the internet.

> Meanwhile, he wants literally anyone's viewpoint to be amplified, no matter the accuracy of the claims made.

No, thats not true either. He doesnt want "literally anyone's" viewpoint to be amplified. He wants diverse viewpoints amplified. While its true he isnt prioritizing expertise, but rather documenting consensus it would not be accurate to describe him as simply amplifying any viewpoint with this particular approach.

> Wikipedia allows anyone to edit, but there are still rules and procedures to ensure verified accuracy of changes made.

It sure is, and there is no doubt its a great source that is semi-scholarly (cites its sources and does some good due dilligance). I am not arguing that point.

Its more of a comparing apples and oranges kind of deal.. both methodologies have value and should exist, but they are filling very different needs, one is trying to show the academic consensus on a topic, the other is trying to show the consensus that exists int he general population on non-scholarly topics.

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BTW the notes thing sounds super cool... It is unlikely to produce the quality wikipedia does, as "both sides" doesnt always work well in science... but I could see that being a very interesting resource if done right. The idea of needing consensus from opposing groups and that the result will be the overlap where all sides agree sounds quite interesting, id be curious to see where that goes.

That said I kinda expect Elon to screw it up.

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@tripu

The first one doesnt seem like an attack at all. Its a true statement of fact (wikipedia **is** hierarchical). He compared it to his own company and why he thought his was a better approach.

While he certainly is likely to be wrong about his own company being better, I hardly see what he said in this comment as an attack.

Second one just seems like a joke regarding the wording of the donation header... nothing there seems like an attack to me either.

The third one seems marginally like an attack. Now he is making a legit accusation, one that probably isnt founded. That said non-profits do tend to be insanely wasteful. He **could** be right, i never reviewed their spending.. but its an attack they deserves checking on and I can understand it leaving a bad taste in ones mouth I suppose...

The fact that jimmy doesnt take a salary is at least suggesting this one is BS

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@TruthSandwich Sounds like news is a failure on both sides of the aisle these days... yea I knew that.

@realcaseyrollins We have fought each other over far far less....

@futurebird You mean we allow black people in universities now? Wow, who coulda guessed?

I'm not "a white guy" but I am often mistaken for one (I'm mixed).. I've never witnessed this personally but I dont doubt it happens. If i ever do I would be sure to say something, thats just idiotic.

@hans reaction to my antibiotics, lupus... im in a lot of pain but its getting better.. i should be fine in a few days. thanks.

@tripu did he attack them? Only thing im aware of is him offering them a billion dollars.

@freepeoplesfreepress Thank you

@freepeoplesfreepress

Doctor told me to stop... so yea im listening to them. I mean the antibiotics was only for AKN.

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@dariusdunlap It sounds like what I have.. i have arthritis but i never notice it... this would seem to be one of the view tims its noticable. So sounds like i have what you have :)

@lhgmk2

What an idiotic thing to say.. to think that calling people out on their war crimes, mass genocide, and murdwer of civilians makes me a propagandist since I call it out EVERYWHERE, and not just selectively for the sides I "like"....

Man you suffer from a serious case of hypocrisy if I every saw one.

@lhgmk2

At no point did I say they were **equivelant**.. only that both sides met the criteria you set forward and insist we condemn people on. The fact that one side is more guilty in that than the other doesnt change the fact both sides are guilty of heinous crimes.

@freepeoplesfreepress

Actually bloodwork is only needed to narrow down the type of lupus. To diagnose lupus the 11 criteria (of which you need 4) only has 2 items that require blood work. Sinc eI quality for 4 of them blood work isnt needed to determine it is a type of lupus.

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@realcaseyrollins

I got dizzy trying to grok that nonsense...

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@lhgmk2

If you dont support terrorism then why wouldnt you condemn it? So its natural for you to insist we condemnt terrorism but int he same breath its unnatural to condemn it? The wha now?

Sounds like you hit a hypocritical contradiction and having trouble justifying it by the sound of it and now it just broke you with this contradiction.. either that or i just misunderstood you.

@freepeoplesfreepress

I'm not really sure its an allergic reaction to the antibiotic itself.. not sure what you'd call it. Maybe it is.

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@lhgmk2

Thats wonderful! I agree.

Shall I take this to mean you are calling out the murder of civilians (terrorism) as well as mass murder of both sides, the Israeli and Palestinian and condemning them both? Short of condeming **both** you are not living up to that ideal. If you do, then you are.

@freepeoplesfreepress

The pain is fairly bad, but it seems to be improving slightly. My urgent care doctor didnt seem too concerned. They seemed to think quiting the antibiotic should do the trick within a few days.

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