🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@WoodSharpening

I didnt shun them They shunned me for calling them out on it and siding with those judging her.

I just have no regrets over the shunning.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist

@dashrandom I have. And being normal doesnt change how wrong it is.

@mxtthxw But would you be interested in joining such a forum?

Would anyone have interest if I hosted a sort of public pod-cast. Basically it would be a podcast with a open video conference were people can join. We would have round table discussions and debates following one-on-one initial interviews or intros.

@szczur if clear evidence is presented I'd like to hear that... some random people just saying its so means very little to me however.

@KingShawn

Biden absolutely hasnt earned my vote. But considering he is a friend of the family I may just have a different, more intimate, view of him. The man is a slime ball on every level.

I never said **anything** about Trump earning my vote. Trump isnt even the presidential candidate yet so that isnt a consideration I need to make.

I mean Biden has done more for the country than some random pile of poo I walked by this morning too... but considering neither that pile of poo, nor trump, are on any presidential ballots yet that seems completely irrelevant to the discussion.

@szczur Oh, no, that narrative is a new one to me.. If its a well established fact with good evidence for it, not just speculation, then I'd be curious to see it.

@szczur if they are funding them that would be pretty messed up. I was more thinking they just dont persue them to conclusion intentionally.

@szczur sadly the only real solution that feels good would require a time machine :)

@szczur Im not suggesting they kill themselves.

Ideally they never would have invaded, but at this point we are passed that. If they intend to stay and resolve the issue, the ethical approach would be 1) never keep land perminantly 2) go in, occupy the space, putin a transitional government for a few years and establish democracy and rule of law. Transition the land back to them once democracy seems to be thriving.

Sadly their past of them just stealing the land, kicking everyone off of it, then taking it for their own is appaling, and generally unheard of in military encounters (even if land is taken people generally can remain on it if they are there).. .so their track record would probably make it hard for anyone to trust they would ever give the land back if they did that.

So an ideal in my mind (but wont happen) is if some third-party invaded both of them and dissolved the israel AND the palestinian govt.

@szczur I mean even if his plan was to let this happen.. it was still hamas that did it. At worst Israel just never seriously tried to exterminate them. So we cant exactly give either side a pass here.

That said the palestinians were there first, sot here is that.

@szczur

It sounds like I probably entierly agree with you based on your reasoning.. you can be logically in the right and still be very much the ass :)

@chiraag

@szczur
There is a part of me that thinks Israel keeps hamas in power by being intentionally ineffective. This way they have an excuse to go to war and genocide more people year after year and take their land.

During the time they had some "peace" when i was there before the big war started I remember how they were talking about taking more land from them even though they werent actively fighting a the time. Many isralis didnt like that jews were taking their settlements during peace time. Cant say I'm surprised that pissed them off.

@szczur

Good on you man. Its really hard for many to admit they acted inappropriately, especially when it comes to such an emotional topic.

You have my respect!

@chiraag

@szczur

I am glad to hear you feel you went to far... Might i suggest, in light of that feeling, you apologize to her? It doesnt mean you have to agree with her (I dont either). But it might go a long way in letting you know you at least care.

@chiraag

@skaly Glad to hear your feeling better. You got this!

@freepeoplesfreepress I am sorry you went throught hat. In the end it seems you turned out great, im just sorry you had to go through that to get there.