🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@rwg

We pay $750 to $1000 per month but please keep in mind this is for servers that host many services for #QOTO beyond just mastodon.

@heinragas

Were you born int he netherlands? For better or worse this isnt the sort of attitude I expect or expiernce from the Dutch I know. This feels more like a reaction an american or a brit would have than a Dutch person, who is usually less polarized.

@Rado1 Of course its not linear... I've done tons of research on population growth.. The problem is the non-linearity occurs due to starvation and competition for resources or otherwise making the world hard to survive in reducing the number of kids someone wants to have.

Non linear is the problem, its nonlinearity is directly where the suffering and starving occurs.

@em Hope you have a clucking good time!

@Amikke You make an excellent point :)

Them: Because of capitalism cars are expensive, 200 years ago a everyone could afford a mode of transport.

Me: Well yea, but your paying extra because now it cant get diarrhea or kick you in the face.

Just some random #Math porn .... yummmy

@freepeoplesfreepress We are talking formal logic here so there are some very specific things to keep in mind.

Formal logic deals with axioms, and logical operations on them. So while it can bring implicit information from the axioms out as explicit information logic itself can not define the axioms nor can it determine the truthfulness of those axioms.

Therein lies the crux, it can only tell you the relationship between some assumptions and what it might tell you about other things it doesnt directly state. But it relies on assumptions.

Reminder: logic and reasoning is **not** the determination of the truth. It is about defining the relationships between the truthfulness of separate statements. That is all.

#Philosophy #Logic #PredicateLogic

@ABScientist

Thats the problem with not looking at the numbers, everyone has bught the lie the news has drilled into us. Most beleive it, so you will hear it amplified.

But the facts, that no one is denying, is that there has been steady and significant long term improvement over the economy, by a **huge** margin... knowing a few random people who are struggling to pay their bills are an indication there are still problems left, but hardly a counter argument.

@ABScientist

> I think there are quite a few people who can afford less than they are used to.

If you are talking about short-term then yea, year to year there is going to be some fluctuation, not every year is a global economic improvement. COVID hit us hard for example and there was certainly a downturn from this.

But on average over longer periods of time the economy overall is objectively better with far fewer people below a living wage than ever before.

> This raises questions of what are basic needs. Food, housing and heating obviously are.

It goes beyond just basic needs, by almost every measure the poorest among us are much better off than they were at the turn of the century.

> But is going on a holiday every year a basic need? Being able to smoke? Have a subscription to Netflix? Presents around Christmas? Dining in restaurants? Have a pet?

No matter how you measure it more people can do all of those things more often then they could a century ago, and by a huge margin.

> Especially the holiday causes a lot of discussion where I am. I think you can argue that you need time off work every year, but travel?

Even by this measure things have vastly improved. The average work week was over 60 hours a week at the turn of the century, today it is much less, a a bit below 40 hours a week.

@ABScientist No it doesnt suggest there is no problem.. It suggests (and explicitly states) that the problem has gotten much better.. 70% to 10% is a huge improvement, but it isnt the same as saying the problem was eliminated, only greatly improved.

As to why people wrongly think it got worse, thats simple, because fear and hype sells... while things have gotten monumentally better economically for everyone the news still makes money off convincing you the opposite, and it has worked, consistently, for over 100 years.

@ABScientist And yet The percentage of people below the poverty line has went from ~70% > 10% world wide in that time despite a greater wealth disparity... Funny that huh, its almost like having rich people or a wealth disparity doesnt cause poverty at all.

@LexiGirl

Yea thats true too, of both the extreme left and extreme right, on many issues.

Next time someone trys to blame #capitalism on the cost of cars or a home now compared to in the 50's or at the the turn of the century just remind them we dont have a capitalism problem, we have a population problem. For most people in their 40's the population of the planet has virtually doubled since were kids, there isnt as much to go around as there used to be (and since the turn of the century the population has increased 5x).