🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@QasimRashid Finally a post from you I can support... glad to see you bringing attention to this.

@paul Yea taxing money over and over again once its earned is simply unfair... not going to support this regardless of the idiotic anti-rich rhetoric... I **will** support anti-trust/monopoly enforcement which biden seems to refuse to care about.

@MasterMischief

Hahah , well at leat your using fair language here, I certainly have no issue with you taking concern with any perceived inequality. A lot more honest than using loaded and inaccurate language like "tax give aways"

@QasimRashid

@DrBonesMD

I never said or implied anything about tax being theft... Tax is where the government taxes money another person owns. It isnt theft, its how we build community collectively.

What does the amount of tax bezos or anyone pay have to do with what we are discussing? As I stated before its perfectly fine to think they should pay more taxes if thats your opinion. But when you call not taking something someone else earned as a "giveaway" you have lost all credibility in the discussion IMO. Even if its justified and fair to take that money, not taking it is still not a "give away"

@GW

@ech generally speaking, as far as I know, ruptured ear drums dont cause bleeding. I know when I popped an ear drum in a dive (it has fully healed) there was no blood

@thor Its important to point out that is not yoru eyes getting worse, its the nature of glasses. If your near sighted your focal point is closer. That usually means you have **superior** near vision and worse farther.

@thor because corrective lenses kill your near-sighted vision I find anything other than glasses to be annoying to say the least

@ClaraListensprechen4

Love fades but things, things last forever!

@thor I feel judged

@DrBonesMD

To illustrate your point im going to go around to homeless people and aim a gun at them and go "Give me a million dollars, actually nevermind you can keep it as a giveaway" then go home... then we can all praise me for giving million dollar giveaways to the homeless.

@GW

@niclas

Most successful people work below minimum wage, namely, 0$. I have worked at 0$ at all my companies at the start.

@QasimRashid

@equiraptor Yes we covered that earlier in the thread and agreed that was a mistake.

@DrBonesMD

Sure, its simple, you cant call something a "giveaway" when you are simply choosing not to take something of theirs.

If i am giving something away it implies it is mine to give, not that I could take soemthing that is yours and dont.

@GW

@diresock

> Well... five states don't have a minimum wage: Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Tennessee.
Two states, Georgia and Wyoming, have a minimum wage below $7.25 per hour.

Seems I was mistaken there. Just double checked, indeed there are two states below federal minimum wage.

> The massive increase in wealth of anyone who gets into congress is a more interesting trend that needs investigation.

Indeed that would be more interesting a argument.

@QasimRashid

@QasimRashid

Wow so much misleading data here not sure where to start...

> Billionaire tax rate: 8.2%
> Worker tax rate: 13%

The billionaire tax rate you site is across the entire family then averaged per person. So a billionaire with 5 new born kids and a wife would show1/7th his **real** paid tax rate."

As if that werent bad enough the worker tax rate is the number as it would be calculated for individual works, not diluted across the family. So clearly this is an intentional cheat.

How do I know? Because literally the first hit when i google searched it gave those numbers and when investigating the source I found the intentionally misleading nature of it.

> Federal Minimum Wage
2009: $7.25
2023: $7.25

This has two problems.. 1st, you are cmparing an entire persons life worth (including inheretance) and comparing it against someone supposed hourly wage. These arent even remotely comparable or related things.

On top of that you used the federal minimum wage which is not actually used, anywhere. The states all have their own minimum wage, and they are all above that of the federal minimum wage. So the federal minimum wage you list is literally not the minimum wage used **anywhere**

This is a big reason why these sorts of arguments are dismissed by so many people, they are so over the top dishonest and biased people have stopped paying attention to this sort of nonsense.

@appassionato

The irony of a book on Oligarchy sold by Cambridge is not lost on me, lol.

@bookstodon

@kilroy_was_here

I think books are a little easier to ignore than TV or radio, but the idea isnt that different, more or less agree.

Yea in many ways the older advertising stuff was bonkers "Hey kids, buy our special BB guns, each BB laced with heroin and comes with a free 8--ball of cocaine too!"

@danilo

@danilo Im confused why you think you are the first generation to expiernce that.... Seems most of the previous generations went through the same, just replace TV with radio, same basic deal though.