🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@lonelyowl

> No dude, that's literally what we care about - helping poor people and spending as little money and resources as possible so that the money saved can be spent on helping more people.

Right we want to actually **help** poor people, that is the priority over effiency. UBI **harms** poor people by enabling them (giving them money and fueling bad habbits with no conditions placed on it). Since helping poor people is the priority UBI is a solid no.

Also the fact that it fuels wealth destruction it has the secondary effect of not just negating any perceived effiency but also harming the overall economy significantly compared to incentive based welfare.

> A fun thing that ubi was tested several times, we have an empirical evidence that it works, in different economic landscapes. Yet people still think it will break the economy and turn everyone in lazy bastards

No I have talked in depth about how most of the studies suggesting UBI is a net positive is easily debunked. When I have time ill dig up my old posts on it where I debunk these sorts of claims in detail. I dont have the bandwidth for that level of engagement right now.

@kilroy_was_here @DaveFernig

@DaveFernig

Effecient and cheaper is not what we need to care about here.

First we care about what gets people out of poverty, not what is cheapest. Ubi doesnt do that, quite the opposite it enables bad behavior

Second, UBI leads to wealth destruction and is bad for the economy due to the above reason and will ultimately cause harm, not good.

@kilroy_was_here

@lonelyowl13

Oh yes, I misread that. My apologies, no issue with the software then afterall. Thanks for pointing that out.

@clacke

@lonelyowl13

The feature which allows an admin block to be overruled is not what I have issue. The fact that the software itself dictates pre-blocked servers is something I am not ok with.

@clacke

@lonelyowl13 @bigcat

Thank you, looks like QOTO :)

@bigcat Whats the hashtag say in english?

@clacke I see plenty of reasons in there to block threads, not a single thing to justify software blocking by default.

@fleeblewidget I dont think it was ever meant to be restricted to people you know directly. Since day one they had the ability to pay to circumvent that.

@dansup

Well I certainly will be refusing to use pixelfed then, this is uncalled for.

@johnhamelink Huh? What resources... Besides if the resources were more valuable than the subscription than it is a charity in its own right.

@bonifartius They can increase the rate without offering that service.

@Ted How does making less money make their figures look better?

I find it interesting that amazon proactively suspends subscriptions you dont use so they wont charge you for a service you stopped using and forgot you had.

That seems oddly considerate at the expense of their own income...

@bonifartius I am pretty sure I saw that apocalypse movie already.

@bonifartius what do you mean more particles to block the sun? You mean sunscreen lotion?

@realcaseyrollins

Being supportive to them as a people and how they wish to express themselves.

There isnt really much of any policy off hand that needs support or change that I can think of. Occasionally something like gay marriage becomes an issue, but I think that is allowed in most states now.

@TomSwirly

More like "A group did a bad thing to others, now that they are a victim of the system they created i dont care. Especially when it may encourage them to change it"

Yes, very yes

@flexghost

@flexghost Not a tear to be found anywhere on my face. I have no problem with him being off the ballot.