Whats the point of posting this, like duh, we all know that already buddy.
To be clear and put numbers onto it. After George Floyd died and people started screaming he was dead, the police continued to choke the man for over nine minutes.
That alone is all that needs to be said as to why outrage is deserved. Full stop.
To be clear and put numbers onto it. After George Floyd died and people started screaming he was dead, the police continued to choke the man for over nine minutes.
That alone is all that needs to be said as to why outrage is deserved. Full stop.
> oh, I see now that part I missed, thank you for pointing - let me assure that wasn't intentional, just English not being first language sometimes plays jokes with me
I appreciate you saying this rather than digging in. My apologies for my tone as it did seem intentional, or at the very least it is usually intention on the internet. I am legitimately in the wrong for assuming that was the case with you rather than giving you the benefit of the doubt. I will admit your tone about talking about a person suffering with drug addiction gave me a very negative impression of the quality of your character. And while that statement is problematic still I did lean to heavily into that in my tone.
> If not his death, what else could provoke outrage? If he miraculously survived, it would be yet another case of police work - called for crime in progress, arrest, jail, nothing to call home about
Becase how a person acts based on what they perceive is what tells you about their character, not if they get lucky with the consequences or not. If someone shoots at an innocent person trying to kill them they arent a better person if they happen to miss.
The outrage comes from the absolutely deplorable quality of character of the police in handling these situations, the outcome just piles remorse on top of that. Specifically in floyds case, the man choked him well beyond compliance to the point the man appeared dead, to the point people asked if he was dead, and even after people started seeing he was dead he went on to be choked for a very long time rather than giving him medical attention.
Him being dead or not, caused by drugs or not, doesnt change the quality of the character of those cops, the fact that those cops clearly were ok with his death, even wanted his death. Him being easier to kill because of drugs really doesnt exonerate the cops in the least. In fact it has no relevance at all to the morality of the situation.
People cant tell the future, the morality of your actions is the same regardless of if you get lucky with things turn out or not.
@AncientGood You realize when you quote someone and leave out the one part that proves you wrong, you dont look smart, and you wont trick people.
The sentance I said that you left out that makes your response disconnected with mine was this very important sentance:
> In fact even if he somehow managed to survive he deserved the exact same level of outrage.
So now all you showed is not only did you argue against a different point than I made, but you proved it was intentional, twice.
> and somehow I am flapping my gums (by typing, I guess?) and not even trying to understand what you said?
Yes, both because you responded to a different argument than I made, and then when you quoted me left out the only sentence that made that clear.
@freeschool small suggestion, limit your hashtags a bit. Many people will block you on sight if they see a post with an excessive number of hashtags. Whole instances will block you.
@AncientGood You seemed to completely ignore what i said and then just flapping your gums arguing against something I didnt even say. I am happy to debate you, but you need to make some effort at actually understanding what I say before you disagree iwth it or else your just wasting my time.
AS I said before, if him ODing as the underlying cause is literally not remotely relevant to the morality of the situation. He sat on his neck so he couldnt breath, evne if he then ODed (not due to the strangling) the cop still remained strangling a lifeless body for a very long time.
Your argument is idiotic because it assumes the cause of death is remotely related to the outrage... it isnt. The fact that a man was choked while dying (of any cause) and continued to be choked when dead is what matters, and that remains true OD or not.
@AncientGood You seemed to completely ignore what i said and then just flapping your gums arguing against something I didnt even say. I am happy to debate you, but you need to make some effort at actually understanding what I say before you disagree iwth it or else your just wasting my time.
AS I said before, if him ODing as the underlying cause is literally not remotely relevant to the morality of the situation. He sat on his neck so he couldnt breath, evne if he then ODed (not due to the strangling) the cop still remained strangling a lifeless body for a very long time.
Your argument is idiotic because it assumes the cause of death is remotely related to the outrage... it isnt. The fact that a man was choked while dying (of any cause) and continued to be choked when dead is what matters, and that remains true OD or not.
I know your not the brightest bulb int he batch, but how would **I** die from cancer someone else has?
This jsut popped up in my feed because someone boosted it.
I literally cant tell from this description if you are describing Trump or Biden, and the fact that it equally applies to both is rather telling.
@tatzelbrumm Ha! got it now
@tatzelbrumm I cant read hebrew so i dont know this meme sadly
> how exactly a criminal drug user (who died from OD) deserved outrage?
Because a cop strangled him to death and remain choking his lifeless body for several minutes after he was dead... yup, certainly deserves outrage.
In fact even if he somehow managed to survive he deserved the exact same level of outrage.
> f only by showing how corrupt judge and whole system are, that caved in to "mostly peaceful" activists, who demanded so called justice for a cop simply doing his job, but outrage was targeted toward police and that one police man with wrong skin color
Nope
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