Anoother person who was literally offended because I proved a number was objectively false because.. how dare I argue against something trying to make a good point (that abortion should be legal).
People just cant fathom that I can support abortions and still want to make sure facts about abortions are accurate. Those are not mutual exclusive goals.... especially not if your in the right (and I do believe abortions being legal is in the right)
@Lori If it were any dog I ever met pretty much :)
@freemo @JoeStewart I read Junky and Pimp. People were worried about getting their cars seized in the 1930s for having dope on them. And there was a very lively drug trade back then, if the books can be believed. The WOD was well under way in the 50s when Junky was written, complete with undercover cops, buy-busts, the whole works. The only major difference was the Feds rather than state and local were leading it.
I mean Jan 6th was bigger. But the difference is Jan 6th was something a bunch of radical people did, watergate is something a president directly did that was illegal.
Tip: see my bio. I state clearly I think abortions should be legal (With short windows), free, and tax paid. I also think pregnancy tests should be free.
So clearly I do not like abortions being illegal. This isnt about that, its about the fact that I also dont like lies, even those lies are intending to support a POV I agree with.
@krypt3ia yea he will file an appeal for sure, may even just refuse to pay. I suspect he wont have much luck with appeals.
Absolutely, I agree, even one is too many.
So while this number is grossly inaccurate, a lie, and very much over inflated from the real numbers, and that is important to point out. Whatever hte real numbers actually are are, absolutely, too high, even if that number is 1.
As youll notice I said nothing about if the real number is acceptable or not.
Oh so you were asking and saying you didnt know if he could appeal?
All rulings can request an appeal. Those appeals may not be heard beyond that however.
Why would you assume he cant appeal? He should be able to, whether the appeal is heard or is successful is another matter.
> Thank you. I’m continually surprised by my ignorance and the ease with which I accept as fact things I read and watch….
For what its worth before seeing this post I beleive the typical narrative of Nixon being the bad guy who started the war on drugs too.
What got me was when i was reading this i went "wait a second, they made it sound like he made heroin illegal, coulda swore it was already illegal"... I looked it up and sure enough it was made illegal 44 years earlier.
So then, beleiving my original assumptions must be true I went "Well surely he at least made it more illegal".. so i looked up his exactly policy and read it and read his quotes. To my shock he actually passed laws that specifically reduced criminality, making pocession a misdemeanor for all drugs which used to be a felony.
After that I went and researched the quote and found it to be utterly fake. and well... we arrived at my post :)
> The outcomes I was referring to relate to those delivered by decades of the “war on drugs.” In particular, the narco traffickers and the induced migration of those fleeing the resulting violence not to mention the focus on enforcement and incarceration rather than treatment and prevention.
The war on drugs certainly started with Nixon **indirectly** with the formation of the DEA. Nixon wanted less criminality, but actual enforcement. He thought drug abuse was a true ill to society as far as I could tell, so he did want to eliminate it, but he didnt want everyone to just wind up in jail. He largely wanted to target,it seems, the dealers and producers and leave the users out of it as far as severe punishments go. This was absolutely an improvement from the felony charges people used to get.
The problem is the DEA took on a life of its own, after Nixon it grew, became more pervasive, and the penalties started to increase again.
So one can argue that Nixon started a chain of events that ultimately led to the drug war and its abuse on the people. But when Nixon started it it wasnt like that, and as I said it actually was a lessening of charges.
I mean, he may have done some good things, I agree.. but umm... watergate :)
@freemo @JoeStewart Former President Nixon was just too ahead of his time. Compared to the recent presidents, he did nothing wrong. There was the relationship with China that he improved and the EPA being started.
Nixon's presidency was one of the most important and misunderstood.
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@falcennial I think there is a difference between not being real and not being relevant.
Quantum mechanical effects for example are only "real" at the quantum level.. that is to say of course they still exist at the large scale but they are such a small marginal aspect of it that it would effectively had no meaningful effect. We can model large objects using QM but the effetive frequency of the object would be so large that the wavelength would be insiginificantly small.
Same is true of gravity but in reverse. Its like caring about an ant on a whales back :)
Thats not what happened.
How is me agreeing with you about people getting hurt in large numbers, while stating the specific number is wildly off a "libertarian sounding argument"?
Us agreeing that the actual numbers are still large and unacceptable is **not** at odds with pointing out a fictional and largely inflated number is fictional and largely inflated.
Science means telling the truth and being accurate is your first priority, and you can do so while still admitting the underlying point. This is not at odds, and certainly not a "libertarian thing"
@johnabs just enough solubility to ensure I dont get barnicles. The salt would very slowly dissolve and they would fall off over time :)
:The hard part is getting the maintanence "Hey my boats hull is getting kinda thin, would you mind adding a few new layers of salt to it, thanks"...
@AlphaKiloPapa So do I, sometimes he complains and its hard to sleep, have to gag him. But its good to know he is there should I ever need him :)
LOL but in all seriousness no, I have the judge too. I actually dont keep it as my main gun though but its a good choice. My Kimber Rapide Dawn is my go-to most of the time.
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