Everything is a spectrum, and almost always existing on either end is the worst place to be. You usually want to be in the happy middle for most things. Tolerance is no different.
Then feel free to express it here and I'd be happy to talk about it :)
If such an exchange were actually possible, maybe.
In practice attempting to do so results in a loss of liberty and an increase in the risk. So such an equation does not exist in the world, even if hypothetically if such a thing could exist it sounds appealing.
I dont believe in tolerance absolutism.. on a personal level you should be tolerant sure, doesnt mean you need to tolerate everything.
Absolutes dont work in anything, ever, not even once.
I'd rather hear your opinions than read someone elses who isnt here.
Sure. I really dont care if you could find some aspect of their policy that happens to bea good idea.. I mean they didnt have very many good ideas, but im not going to say something is bad just cause its associated with nazis alone. As I often point out, Hitler liked birthday cakes, it doesnt make birthday cakes evil.
Yup, tons of words represent a bunch of different and logically seperable things lumped together. In fact most words representing political movements or qualities thereof would fit that description.
Not sure I see the relevance. Being tolerant doesnt mean you have to be tolerant to the point of absurdity.
Sure America has... when did I ever claim America was the good guys?
"A nationalist form of socialism" is not the sane as "Nationalist Socialism" which is a synonym for the nazi party.
The names of partys and politicial movements are often quite different than the literal meaning of the words as a descriptor.
@Hyolobrika @volkris @realcaseyrollins
The democratic aspect is only one of the qualities that makes fascism fasism.
I dont maintain a personal definition of fascism. I agree with the dictionary on this term and find it sufficient.
For the nazi specifically? The murder and oppression of pretty much anything that isnt seen as the "norm" in society from minotiries to gays. The banning (or rather enforcement of such bans) on guns, freedom of speech, right to assemble. There are TONS of bad things they did that goes beyond simply killing the Jews.
No, in fact quite the opposite. A political system that **does** bar people from holding office who hold fascist beliefs would be come fascist the fastest. In fact, the moment it passes the law that prevents them from holding office, at that very moment it has become fascist.
It would depend on what exactly we agree "nationalist socialism" entails... wanting to commit genocide is certainly the **biggest** reason their evil, but it may not be the only one.
Tolerance is simply how much you respect, care, and consider the opinions of people who arent like you.
@freemo @volkris I actually disagree with this, depending on what you mean.
When people say “tolerance”, they usually refer to either allowing people to speak, or not barring people from taking office.
Any ideology that bars people from speaking or holding office based on their beliefs alone will bleed into fascism given enough time and power.
Now to be clear, there’s a big difference between tolerance and acceptance. Listening to an idea doesn’t mean you should embrace it. But it’s possible to have enough discernment that you hear someone crazy say something crazy and say “that’s crazy” rather than “why isn’t he in jail yet”.
New posting! This one contains a few reflections on what I do, and don't, miss about my life in #academia.
https://totalinternalreflectionblog.com/2024/01/28/only-in-the-abstract/
I am not suggesting you should be tolerant of everything, No one needs to be tolerant of literal Nazis for example. But when everyone and everything that disagrees with you looks like a Nazi.....
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