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@voidabyss

Whic immutable OS we even talking about. Closest I can think of outside of livecd based distros is nixos... but ive never heard it called that.

@vwbusguy @heurism @SoftwareTheron

Except that it literally isnt. Mussolini was a lot of things, a political science expert he was not.

While fascism can of course be achieved through corporate power, that is not a requirement of fascism and is simply one among many ways to get there. They most certainly arent synonymous.

@ent @volkris @Hyolobrika @realcaseyrollins

@ent

Did we slip into corporatism or fascism, those are completely different ideas with wildly different components, and there can be a lot of overlap there.

@volkris @Hyolobrika @realcaseyrollins

@ent

Of course im still describing a republic, a republic is a specific form of democracy, why would I not be describing a republic?

@volkris @Hyolobrika @realcaseyrollins

@ent

A republic is a type of democracy. The proper term is a "Democratic Republic" ... you are thinking of r a"Direct Democracy" which is another form. There isnt just one type. and since there isnt just one type it is silly to try to say its a crap system since it isnt a single system, it is a category of systems.

@volkris @Hyolobrika @realcaseyrollins

@realcaseyrollins

My grandfather (a WWII vet) had to walk that slippery scope to get to school, uphill, both ways, in the snow.

@volkris @Hyolobrika

@realcaseyrollins

Everything at every level is a balance. Even in the USA where free speech (And the tolerance that goes with it) is a primary right. Yet even in america tolerance has its limits, and there are in fact quite a few restrictions with regards to the appropriate way to express your rights.

@ned @volkris @Hyolobrika

@realcaseyrollins

You are talking about specific exammples of tolerance. and that is fine. But the conversation is just about tolerance in the general sense, not legality or anything like that. Or even tolerance in public space. Those are specific subsets that of course can have their own discussions.

When talkking about public spaces we do have free speech restrictions even in the USA, even on the side walk. They are referred to as time, place, and manner restrictions, then you also have calls to action and other aspects of free speech and tolerance.

@volkris

@volkris

Everything is a spectrum, and almost always existing on either end is the worst place to be. You usually want to be in the happy middle for most things. Tolerance is no different.

@realcaseyrollins

@Hyolobrika

If such an exchange were actually possible, maybe.

In practice attempting to do so results in a loss of liberty and an increase in the risk. So such an equation does not exist in the world, even if hypothetically if such a thing could exist it sounds appealing.

@volkris @realcaseyrollins

@volkris

I dont believe in tolerance absolutism.. on a personal level you should be tolerant sure, doesnt mean you need to tolerate everything.

Absolutes dont work in anything, ever, not even once.

@realcaseyrollins

@Hyolobrika

Sure. I really dont care if you could find some aspect of their policy that happens to bea good idea.. I mean they didnt have very many good ideas, but im not going to say something is bad just cause its associated with nazis alone. As I often point out, Hitler liked birthday cakes, it doesnt make birthday cakes evil.

@ned @volkris @realcaseyrollins

@Hyolobrika

Yup, tons of words represent a bunch of different and logically seperable things lumped together. In fact most words representing political movements or qualities thereof would fit that description.

@volkris @realcaseyrollins

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