🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@Theverytechnologypony You work at whatever pace you see fit.

@timorl Trump lacks even the smallest sense of charisma and I think one of the most damning things about him, and what gets him in so much trouble, is how he talks and how he tries to deflect criticism.

In that regard I agree, he didn't really handle these questions too well. What we wanted was him to decry people who acted out violently that appeared to be aligned with him politically. He didn't do that out of fear that it would cause him to loose supporters... That was a mistake on his part IMO.

To an extent I understand why he responded as he did, though I dont agree with it. I think he viewed the very question as a way for democrats to get one over on him.. if he dencounces the violence then he is 1) legitimizing that it is real and a concern and 2) loosing support from the people who do not view the violence as real and instead view the violence of the left as the legitimate violence (antifa). So he took the approach of dodging the bullet.

While I do agree trump should have very vocally denounced the violence, and there is no excuse for that, I also dont see Biden denouncing the extreme violence of Antifa, which is many orders of mangitude worse right now. When I am int he USA I live in philadelphia. We have been rioting like crazy the past few months and a large part of the violence i see right outside my door is largely antifa. They have been rioting, burning homes and businesses tot he ground, and assaulting people on the street in open violence like I've never seen before. There have been days the sky was black with fires here as self-proclaimed antifa run around like gangs assaulting anyone who has a MAGA hat on or supports trump.

The violence I've personally seen out my very window from antifa is horrific and yet I have yet to witness even a single pro-trumper act with this sort of violence.

So on this point I have to ask, have I seen Biden decrying antifa... the answer is, nope.. In fact I dont even see the media cornering him demanding he does like they did with trump.

So while I may give Trump a black mark for not detesting the violence outright, I would give biden and the democrats 10 black marks for doing the same in the face of much greater and widespread violence.

@timorl This, in my eyes is mostly a non point.. We are talking about positions that dont have any actual power.. they cant vote for anything, they cant pass any laws or do anything politicially.. We are talking basically about people that trump wants as advisors. So I really dont see any problem with him assigning those positions to anyone he wants, or how long those positions retain an "acting" title. If the position holds no actual power I simply dont see this as an issue in the first place.

@timorl Most of the examples of profiteering, except a few minor ones, are actually just normal business and what is expected..

Lets take saudis rending rooms at trump hotels and generally using ones own property to host government activities and being able to charge for it. While this certainly seems wrong at first glance, it is actually something every president has done and is very much the norm.

For example Biden does the same thing, and has done it for his whole career... For example secrete service and aids often need to follow him to wheverver he goes. It is not unusual, and very much the norm, for him to do business out of his home or in a property he owns, like trump, and those aids and SS need to follow him. As such Biden and other politicians, routinely charge the US government for those aids and SS to use or be on his property.

An example of this government employees pay **regular** rent to biden as he has instructed them to rent out one of his cottages and effectively live there.

So yea, this may look bad but the truth is, charging the government to use your own facilities in the course of normal day to day work is very much the norm and Trump really isnt doing that much different in that regard. Just like Biden wanting to be able to work occasionally out of a place he calls home, Trump does the same.

@Theverytechnologypony The bugs are listed on our source repo, there are only one or two.. start with one of those to get your feet wet? Let me know if the issues as they are currently published make sense to you.

@timorl Oh but to be clear I have absolutely no issue with him witholding his tax returns.. He has every legal right to do so, there is no law suggesting he has to release it, and frankly I see no benefit to him releasing it. Paying more taxes than you owe is not a moral obligation and using the law to reduce your tax burden is not something that should be held agaisnt him..

Not only do u support him not releasing his taxes, I wholeheartedly agree with that decision. I can see no reason they would need to be released . Now if he cheated on taxes**that** we would want to know. But if he did that it would be on public record as the IRS makes that information public.

The reason people want and demand taxes is simply because americans have this misguided notion that if you pay the amount of tax the tax law dictates you are required to, and no more, that you are somehow a bad person.. In my eyes this is nonsense.

@timorl Transparency of government is a big issue for me as well.

Trump certainly hasnt won my love over in the transparency department, though neither did any previous president honestly. So the question for me is if he backtracked us in terms of transparency or not, because he certainly hasnt done anything I am aware of to make progress on that issue (though neither has biden to be honest).

With that said I am an evidence based person and like you most of the claims here abotu FOIA and such are just hear say and we cant confirm it, so I have to put that aside without evidence.

Where I think there is some validity and good evidence to prove on this issue is where he withheld not just COVID-19 data but also tried to take down scientific data on issues like global warming by using federal funding as leverage. There have been reports from quite a few science organizations that confirm this. Granted I cant completely verify this either but enough different sources have raised hell about this I am compelled to think it is valid.

So on this one, at least in regard to science data, I would agree with you, it is damning against trump.

In fact I'd say trumps anti-science anti-environmental approach to things (the transparency thing seems secondary to that and limited to those areas) is his most damning quality. His obstruction of science/environmental issues is absolutely the worst tick mark against him out of the lot. It is also where I personally dislike his policies the most.

Though to bring this back to a biden comparison, for me this election like most is about weighing the two evils that are the candidates. So while this is a huge black mark against trump, in the big picture it doesnt approach the things Biden has done, so ultimately i am stuck favoring Trump despite not liking him, at least out of the two.

@timorl

There is a lot of validity in this point. I think it is obvious trump had no interest in cooperating and did everything within his power to derail the investigation.

On the one hand this doesnt look good for trump, and for the most part I agree with you that he handled it in a way that didnt look good.

However to play a bit of devil's advocate I can also see Trumps side in why. We were talking about something he perceived as a witch hunt, which to some extent I agree. If the investigation were handled in a court of law judged by his peers, and not by congress, it would have been thrown out for lack of evidence on day one I'd imagine. Typically in court a person would have the ability to push for such a motion, to have the case dropped due to lack of evidence, not to mention those juding him would have been impartial by definition.

Instead, however, the investigation was prompted from political motivations, carried out by the FBI, and never made it to a court room. Moreover any lawyer defending a client, especially during the investigation stage, would tell their client not to "cooperate", the general advice of a lawyer is if a cop asks you questions refuse to answer them as it can be twisted and used against you in court later.

Not only is it well within a persons rights not to cooperate with an investigation that seeks to specifically incriminate said person, it is the norm and expected.

Combine this witht he fact that Trump perceived it as a witch hunt, a waste of time, and ultimately a political move to discredit him without basis. So he felt as a political tactic it was abusive on the part of the democrats..

So with all that said there are parts of how he responded I can justify, parts I cant... Him telling people not to cooperate or him not cooperating himself seems ok, thats the advice lawyers give as standard... where he crossed the line as you point out is when he used his power as president to fire people, as you say. So the one glaring issue on this point, for me, and the most damning for trump, is that there are claims he ordered people fired in an attempt to derail the investigation.

Presuming for a second this is true It would be that point, the abuse of power, that would be the most damning for me. The problem I face though is my inability to verify these claims. The claim of Trump wanting Mueller fired came from a report by the new york times and provided absolutely no evidence that I could follow to verify that claim. The New york time was the one who broke the news and they simply asserted it as true without providing the evidence. Considering the low integrity of US news my personal rule is that if there isnt evidence I can follow and verify I dont treat a statement as true. So I am pretty much left in a state where the claim against trump would be very damning if true but since I cant verify the claim I cant draw a conclusion.

With that said even if this were true it is also comparable to many things biden has done, whom has abused his power on many occasions as well, so even if it were true it would put them toe to toe at best.

@a1batross

True, but that is probably at the uppermost limit of what any reasonable repo can be.. and keep in mind we are talking about a very hold and very large project, unlike the vast majority of projects... Still 100 MB in todays day and age of broadband isnt really that big IMO.

@tuxcrafting

@timorl Also before we get into the point for point, perhaps a good place to start is for me to mention the reasons I dislike Biden and that scare me. After that I can address each of your concerns around Trump to contrast this:

1) biden started his career based on a lie about his education that surfaced only after he got into office, turns out he didnt go to schools he claimed to and was at the bottom of his class and didnt get the grades he claimed either

2) He also started his career opposing desegregation efforts. His first decade or so of his career was focused on keeping blacks and whites in separate schools under the claim he did not want to see white schools turned into a "jungle" by introducing black students (his choice of words).

3) He supported and took part in the murder of US citizens without due process, one of the biggest scandals of the Obama administration.. murder.. worse yet in one case it was a 16 year old boy and american citizen part of the drone murder scandals.

4) Kamala is a cop who has a horrific history of abusing blacks and minorities during her career.

5) Kama spearheaded and passed SESTA one of the worst abuses on women and sex workers to date

6) Has a clear case of rapidly progressing dementia. Trump does not, he is just a moron which isnt much better but at least it wont progress as it is with Biden.

7) Kama has an abusive record towards Trans men and women as well passing and supporting bills that deny trans their medication when in jail and leading to suicide and other trauma as a result.

8) Hell she even attacks parents where she supported sending parents to jail as a consequence for home schooling their own children.

9) Finally lets not forget what Biden said at his acceptance speech about wanting to force-drug the american population with a vaccine that hasn't been released yet and was rushed through all the normal FDA safety checks. He said he wanted to require vaccines certificates people would have to show if they are on the streets. We are literally talking about this guy supporting mass drugging on a population without their consent and at gun point.

@timorl One thing to be clear of before we get into any real detail...

I do **not** support trump. I feel he is the lesser of two evils, and not as bad as Biden, but marginally so at best. I also don't subscribe tot he idea of a two-party system."

So if you ask me who i support the answer would actually be Jo for president not Trump. Trump is just who I would pick if i was forced not to vote for a third party and had to pick Biden or Trump and had no other choices.

Always happy to give a thoughtful response though and happy to address each of your concerns.. though keep in mind I may not default to assuming trump is innocent in all cases.. Trump has done a lot of things I don agree with...

@a1batross

I'd imagine clone resuming isnt really worth the effort considering that it should be rarely needed.

GIT repos are by design suppose to be small. The first rule of git repos is you only check non-binary small size content (ideally). So if you are cloning a repo and the repo is of a particularly large size then you are probably misusing GIT int he first place.

@tuxcrafting

@realcaseyrollins Most polls are against him last I looked a few days ago, unless that is changed.

I'm not sure if polls are biased or not honestly, but considering the immense amount of bias I have seen in general these last 4 years it wouldnt surprise me. I mean if the news has completely lost even the smallest sense of integrity who is to say these polls are being conducted properly either anymore. I havent investigated the polls enough to know...

so yea, i guess lets just hope the fact that most of the polls show biden as winning is bias and not reality.. I dont want trump either but i dont want biden more..

Besides like i said trump won over hillary with the same lead in polls, so... maybe...

And yea PA is unusual trump leaning it seems from what I expect.

@realcaseyrollins

What I would have said but with one very important difference. Compare to **many** of the most similar events and then determine the error rate of such evaluations by the degree of dissimilarity.

@lain

@realcaseyrollins Do you reallyt hink so?

On the one hand the polls are against him, so im worried biden might take this one.

On the other hand the polls look exactly like they did when hillary was supposed to win, so... who knows.

@a1batross

This is exactly what I was going to say, you can already do it incrementally by just pulling down at depth=1 and then expand the depth incrementally till you have a full clone. But this would be slow as balls which is the very reason clone doesnt work this way.

@tuxcrafting

@a1batross In theory its possible even under ssh, the problem is it would require a significant change to the standard around a clone

@a1batross Id imagine the big problem being that it has no way of knowing if the repo changed since the first clone started and failed. Normally the server would handle that by temporarily cacheing a complete copy of the repo whent he clone starts but it discards that cache the second the connection drops. someone may have changed the repo in the time it akes you to resume.