🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@p

Yea ok, you literally were seeing ghosts of me on your server and accused one of your users of being me before banning them, and then made a public fool out of yourself when you tried to make a public announcement telling everyone how you caught me... but yea your not triggered.

You are a god damn fool and you walked right into that shit. All I had to do was say "yea i got some alts" and your off banning people and saying "its freemo!" lol

Why in the world would I block someone who is this entertaining.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon

@leyonhjelm

If it caused me any actual distress I could have blocked him a long time ago.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon

@leyonhjelm

Bring what shit? Havent been the least bit inconvenienced or upset yet.. ITs been quite enjoyable in fact seeing P trigger himself over and over and then make a fool of himself publicly.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon

@p

Your right, thank you for you're correction.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon

@leyonhjelm

Why would I block him for being an obnoxious cunt, that has nothing to do with me. Like I said I get a great deal of pleasure watching this shit show that is P

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon

@alex I can type pretty fast, a few seconds of my day wasted is no thing, and its about the same time you wasted anyway, so winds up being about equal in the end.

@p

Sounds like you want me to block you because you got your own damn problems and loose your shit every time you see me talking int he same threadas you, thats your problem, me I dont really care when your in a thread in the least, so it isnt my problem, its yours.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon

@p

Why would I block you? How does that accomplish anything I care about or suit my needs in any way. You want **me** to block **you** so **you** cant see **my** messages in threads your in. Solve your own damn problem and stop constantly playing the victim, dont want to see my messages in threads your in, then block me and dont.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon

@ccc While ADE is far from certain it is a real risk. Yes over a million have died, its very serious. But on the chance ADE, a very real chance, ADE is a side effect of this vaccine, then what happens whe the covid death rate all of a udden doubles?

Taking risks where there is a complete unknown but very reasonable possiblity that the end result is that the death toll fromt he virus goes up and not down long term, thats not an acceptable risk.

Its a shame people are dying, but acting and doing anything, no matter how unsafe, just because of the bias that doing something feels like it is better than nothing, is not good reasoning.

We have enough historic examples of how lack of proper safety measures causes a cure to become worse than the disease. We shouldnt let that be the case here.

I am not suggesting the vaccine not be released at all. I am suggesting that given the very real threat that it can put you at a greater risk of death than the virus, it should be u to the the individual if they want to take it and we should make every effort to ensure no one is strong armed into taking it against their better judgement for their own safety.

@ccc they have went through some very basic safety trials, yea.. typically 5 - 10 years worth hof safety trials down to a few months.

Basically they got through enough trials to know if you take it you probably wont die or get ill in the first few months. But they have absolutely no data regarding the likely hood of 6 month or more concerns.

ADE is the biggest concern that is only detected in longterm trials. This is where a vaccine will usually provide immunity and show normal healthy responses in the short period after taking a vaccine but after 9 months, a year, or more into the future (when long-term immunity sets in rather than short-term) if an immunized person gets the disease they will have a more severe reaction tot he disease than an unimunized person.

If ADE becomes an issue with the COVID vaccine, and we have absolutely no data to provide safety against this, it means people who take it could potentially be in for a death sentance in a a year or more. Health workers who will likely be exposed to covid long after the virus is rampant would be particularly vulnerable to such a situation.

Your assessment of masks seems off... can you explain to me how immunocompromised individuals who would trivially die from even exposure to a cold manage to generally be safe for years on end when treated by doctors even thought they have to be in a clean room? If full protection (face shield, mask, gloves, fresh cloth body suit) were so ineffective wouldnt these people be dropping like flys every time a doctor visited them?

@ccc while I can understand that perspective,and I might even agree with you if we were talking about a vaccine with proven safety... it just doesn't make sense that a patient should have the right to pick doctors who put their lives at risk for your safety, or to allow doctors to have an advantage (draw in more patients) if they put their life at risk through taken an unproven vaccine.

Moreover if a doctor is taking the proper precations then even if they have the virus and they dont know you wont be at risk.. if they are disinfecting regularly, wearing a face mask and shield, and using fresh gloves, then there shouldnt be much of a risk to you.

If that doesnt satisfy you then you have the right to get the vaccine yourself, or do a televisit.

Doctors literally enter rooms and treat patients who are immunocompromised where even a little bacteria from a wall or a cold could easily kill them and yet they do so with a great track record of safety. So any such fears, presuming a doctor takes the right precations are moot in my eyes.

@anonymoose

I mean its clear we disagree on our conclusions about the data, and I too have no reason to disrespect you or your opinons. so all good.

Only other thing we could do is a point by point on the evidence to discuss, which normally I wouldnt mind but that would be a rather drawn out discussion.

@StoneLi

@thatfightnerd

good thing that, as I stated many times, I've never had any intention of taking any legal action then huh?

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @r000t @cowanon

@ccc I dont think a patient should have a right to demand that a doctor put their life at risk in order to vet them. What a patient would have a right to is a doctor that isnt actively sick, a doctor that is regularly checked for presence of the disease, a doctor that washes their hands, wears a mask, and takes all the precautions... but tahts as far as it goes.

The scenario your depicting is a very dangerous slope where doctors and nurses would be required to put their lives at risk, take drugs that have not been properly vetted for safety if they wish to keep their jobs. I dont think we have any right to demand a nurse or doctor both be on the front line and risk their lives AND take experimental drugs before the rest of us that could kill them if they wish to keep their jobs.

@ccc for normal vaccines, no. But when its a vaccine that skipped several years of safety tests, has a real risk of life threatening ADE long-term, has emergency authorization to be distributed without the normal safety vetting, and has an exemption so if you die when you take it (or get injured) you cant sue for compensation... when all that happens to be the case for a vaccine, then yes, a great many hospital workers do not wish to be vaccinated.

@p

Apparently somehow even if im blocked he still magically gets messages from me.. apparently i have some power to just will my messages to go through his block.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @r000t @cowanon

@p

I mena if you really want to pay my fee to answer your demands and go fetch a specific code I'd be happy to. Paypal me some money and you can demand I spend my time doing whatever you wish.

@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon

@anonymoose

Good thing I spent time looking then.

@StoneLi

@ccc Well sort of... as I said you need to know who is in the queue. You obviously have no need to know what hospital workers arent vaccinated when those workers dont intend to get vaccinated. You would only need to know how many hospital workers there are that intend to get vaccinated and who have not.

Thus all you need to know is who is in the queue (people who want to get vaccinated and havent), not who is unvaccinated.

@anonymoose

A judges pronouncement **does** constitute a fact, a very specific one.. if a judge says "your case has been turned down" .. then it is, very much a statement of fact to say, as i did, that the case was... turned down.. Saying a judge turned down a case is a statement of fact and not appeal to authority.

Now where did I say that because a judge turned down the case that that itself present proof that the trump's argument was invalid? I **did** state the lack of evidence invalidates his case, but I did not claim the judges decision did so.

@StoneLi