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@ccc

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Alright, well clearly we disagree on this, but not sure there is much left to be said, I wouldnt agree with that scenario.

All I can say is that no matter how well understoof it may be that "I dont want to tell you" is permitted I dont think that woulds top someone from treating "I dont want to tell you" as equivelant to an admission of guilt. If someone is, for example homophobic they would almost certainly only go to doctors who answer "no" and any other answer would be treated, whether true or not, as an admission to engaging in same-sex intervourse

Similarly with a covid vaccine the end result is just as damaging, the vast majority of the public, even those who think the vaccine is too risky to take it for themselves would likely ask their doctor if their vaccinated and only go to doctors who say yes. Effectively causing doctors who say "I dont want to answer" to be out of a job.

Imagine an exaggerated situation like COVID but just exaggerated to prove the point. Imagine COVID killed half of all people who got it, so pretty much anyone would be scared shitless of covid (though even at the current rates people are more than scared enough)... now imagine there was some vaccine that 2was 100% effective but killed 90% of the people who took it. Obviously no one in the general population would take it because they are safer to take their chances on the virus. But at the same time the virus is so deadly no one would go to a doctor unless that doctor openly admits to taking the vaccine, since they only care about their own lives not the doctors

The end result in such a scenario is effectively that doctors and nurses would either need to take the vaccine and risk a 90% chance of death (which is clearly not in their best interest), or would be out of a job as no one would hire them.

To me that's equivalent to the situation you are putting them in. Many doctors and nurses feel the vaccine is not safe and poses a higher risk than the virus and dont wish to take it. By forcing them to honestly answer if they took the vaccine or not effectively puts them in a position where "I dont know" and "no" are the same in the sense that they are out of a job. As such it forces them to take a dangerous medication if they wish to keep their job.

I'm sorry but I cant see that as fair or healthy.

@ccc ok, so with that said there is a pill that can prevent HIV it isnt a vaccine, and is only given to people in high-risk same-sex sex situations.. i read about it a while ago.

So that isnt exactly the same, but its similar so lets just create a hypothetical here (one that isnt too different from the COVID case in some ways).. Imagine the HIV prevention pill were in fact a vaccine. It is a high risk HIV vaccine with some potential for side effects so generally is not given to the general public, like the pill I mentioned. The only people a doctor will give the pill to are people who engage in high-risk HIV behaviors and is almost exclusivly administered to those who have same-sex intercourse with multiple partners.

As such by asking if someone took this hypothetical HIV vaccine it would effectively reveal to the patient that they are gay. Would you still support your scenario where they would be obligated to answer truthfully?

@ccc Sorry I missed that. so presumably in this scenario since there is no vaccine for HIV you wouldnt really be able to ask anything useful?

@linjaaho you should read about he radioactive boyscout, David Hahn. He basically built (but didnt finish) a breeder reactor in his moms shed and obtained most of his radioactive material from camping lantern mantles. The EPA found out and stepped in before he could finish it but he did manage to create a viable neutron source before they did.

@linjaaho Fire alarms are also radioactive (americium-241).. technically lantern mantles (the little mesh cloth things you attach to use them) are also radioactive, thorium, but in that case the radioactivity is incidental and not part of its function.

Package: "Miocrowave for 1 and 1/2 minutes, then turn over and microwave for another 1 minute."

Me: "Microwave for 2 and 1/2 minutes it is!

@linjaaho Actually yes in fact. Typically radioactive tube starters have had traditionally radioactive minerals in them. Namely tritium, Kypton-85, polonium-147, and thorium-232 that I know of.

The radio active material is used to help create ionization in the chamber at a lower voltage than what is needed to start the tube.

@snow By the way thats like the 6th time you've said that... please stop threatening and start doing, k thanks.

@a7

So it seems.. I wouldnt even care so much if snow didnt intentionally manipulate (and even lie) in their wording.. like if they specifically said it was lolicon, or drawings that may be suggestive of being a child, or even just making it a point to say they were talking about **drawings** i could actually respect snow, I may not agree, but atleast they are being honest.

But when snow intentionally leaves out information so it sounds worse than it is to manipulate people into following a long I loose a **lot** of response

@snow

@snow I stand corrected on the hitler / nazi statement then.

Though i still havent seen any child porn, you only linked drawings.

@snow

for the record anyone reading this snow isnt talking about actual child porn, they are talking about cartoons of women, with small chests, in my investigations I havnt seen any that were explicitly children, though its possible those exist. Almost all of it seems to just be drawings of asians with small breasts.

Before listening to this go to the site and look at their content. I couldn't find any hitler or racist content, and couldn't even find drawing of children in sexual content, though there might be some.

I dont care if someone wants to block the server personally, thats up to you. but I think it is important to clarify exactly what snow means here by child porn, and they mean "cartoons of nude women with small tits" mostly.

With that said if anyone can find actual evidence of child porn where a child is being harmed, **PLEASE** report it to authorities and feel free to let the community know about it. Same with expressly neo-nazi accounts, those are good to point out... But I cant find either on the site and I just looked.

@noelle

I think your the only person in the fediverse who doesnt know who he is.. though honestly, in your case, thats probably for the better. I doubt you two would get along. He is a bit much.

@witchfynder_finder

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