🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@trinsec

I agree with you here, the american people are mostly divided between who they want.

The problem each side thinks they are the majority, and no one has bothered to do a proper investigation to settle it. Plus we were already at eachothers throats before hand.

@dankmaximus @mur2501

@trinsec

Actually on those aspects I agree with you... well partly... Dutch healthcare is just as bad as american just in a different way. Neither system is good. But in terms of the poor having some level of access the dutch are better. The problem is for the middle class who can afford healthcare int he USA, well the USA has the upper edge in that regard (having expiernced both).

But in terms of education I agree the dutch laws are more ideal. I am a big supporter of free education for all.

So yea my original assertion I feel holds true, a combination of both worlds is ideal and each is more free in different ways.

Americans have superior freedoms WRT:

* Guns
* Speech
* middle class and up access to healthcare (pre-obamacare at least)

Dutch have superior freedoms WRT:

* Access to education
* poor's access to healthcare

@dankmaximus @mur2501

@dankmaximus

I would not go so far as saying the americans are more free than the Dutch.. There are areas in which americans are more free and that I would support being applied to the dutch, freedom of speech and guns, the two examples you gave, would be examples of that. But there are also ways in which the dutch are more free at least in practice (I cant think of any legal ones)... the Dutch news for example is more honest and in line with facts than american news tends to be. But I guess that is a social issue and not a legal one.

@trinsec @mur2501

@trinsec

The capital incident was just america's version of Direct Democracy :) we take a slightly more literal interpretation of it than the dutch :)

@dankmaximus @mur2501

@dankmaximus

The overall american legal system in terms of its complete collection of laws are shit, and I wouldnt recommend it for the dutch. However the constitution itself, hell yea, that would be an improvement for the dutch IMO.

The lack of freedom of speech in the netherlands, the fact that calling a police officer an insulting name can get you arrested and you have no legal defense, is a serious violation of human rights IMO.

That said, overall the dutch system isnt too bad, while I have aspects of it I object to overall living in the netherlands has treated me fairly and the police dont seem abusive. So it works at least.

@trinsec @mur2501

@trinsec

Its a little thing called freedom, you should try it

::opens a bottle of budweiser with the barrel of his hand gun as he polishes his rocket launcher::

@dankmaximus @mur2501

@dankmaximus

Wherever there are guns there are parties :)

@mur2501

@dankmaximus

As with anything that isnt falsifiable science has no opinion on the validity of religion.

@stux @mur2501

@trinsec sure was.

@dankmaximus Not everyone can be as cool as me :)

@mur2501

This right here is my dream for the netherlands.

@dankmaximus

@trinsec Keep in mind at first people thought the tear gas was coming from the protestors themselves, even the news were saying that. So clearly there was a lot of confusion. Even videos of police inviting the protestors past the barricades which is astounding.

@mur2501

What would be better than both though would be bicycles WITH guns!

@dankmaximus

@dankmaximus

Ok clearly I'm hanging out in the wrong towns in the netherlands then.. please tell me where :)

We do have a naked bike ride once a year in philly though.

@mur2501

Stolen from @Mitsu

#Trump #USPol @funny #funny #joke #jokes #humour #humor #meme

@mur2501 dude the dutch are SERIOUS about their bikes.. I've seen women in dresses biking to work in the snow without evena grimace.

@dankmaximus It is a rather shallow universe from the whole mythical/philosophical standpoint, yea... Lukas was never all that good with subtlety.

Congratulations today is the anniversary of the only day you ever touched your moms pussy with your mouth... how are you going to celebrate?

Interviews from Trump supporters from the day they marched on the capital.

https://youtu.be/WH8tOcby31c

#USPol