🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@DavidBond QOTO certainly has.

@marathon WebOS was the name of the company, and we did have a browser based app that was basically a operating system in your browser (felt like VNCing into a computer but was not, it was all int he browser).. apps as icons you could move, a trash, etc. However WebOS itself (the product) wasnt actually the flagship product for the company and really didnt get much attention. Hyperoffice (a bit like google Gsuite today) was their big seller.

Their later company, freewebs.com that I helped start with them, which became webs.com was more well known.

@marathon Oh wait, you are probably think of Palm's WebOS.. no thats unrelated.

@marathon I was one of the founding employees and me and the original crew who started that company also went on to start freewebs. I am still very close witht he founders even today.

@Susalx Hi, how are you?

@timorl

> I am not using hyperbole right now, I'm choosing my words very carefully.

yes, you are, and there are examples literred all over this post and i dont even need to invoke the coup / insurrection remarks.

Take this:

> you cannot claim that he told the insurrectionists to go home and didn't tell them he loved them

We had a situation where a large group of people were non-violent and actively opposed to the violence (we even hear the reporters saying on the live video how peaceful most of them appear) and a small handful who were being destructive. Even then most of the violence from them only occured **after** an unarmed protesters was murdered by a cop at the early part of the protest. He clearly told the small percentage who were violent to stop, and refered to the larger group, most of which who were not violent (and happened to include them) that he loved them.

Moreover at the time that he said this those who were being violent were limited to having broken a window, and to have entered the capital buildings mostly non-violently and no indication anyone was armed.. It was however **after** a unarmed protestor was murdered by a cop. so yea doesnt line up in the slightest with the nonsense your peddling. Hyperbole the whole way.

Its a shame because if we were just talking about the violence and did so in a way that represented it accurately I would have agreed with you that it is uncalled for.

@2ck @antigravman

@timorl

So he loves the groups that vote for him that had some members being violent... sounds an awful lot like what biden did. dont recall Biden down talking antifa when they were being violent even once.

He also never told the insurgents that he loved them, though he did tell a crowd that was mostly peaceful with a few sporadic nutjobs that he loved them if thats what you mean.

Honestly I wouldnt have taken you for someone who would lay on the hyperbole so thick. Generally your not the one exaggerating and taking things out of context quite as much as you see to be.

And no if you thought he didnt speak up until after the evacuations then it is clear you never even watched the events life. It was fairly early on in the event. Shortly after the first unarmed protesters was murdered by police, probably in a bid to calm the violence that was only going to get worse from that incident.

@2ck @antigravman

@marathon https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2000/aug/26/internetnews.business

@timorl

Just to recap here, we had 4 years of violence from democrats with such as examples as

1) They burned down multiple building
2) Burnt dozens of cars to the ground
3) Terrorized whole cities
4) in one case took over several city blocks against the residents wishes, put up barricades to keep US forces out, and setup a dictatorship that didnt end until people started dying...

This list could be much longer

Hard to compare a few nut jobs at the capital to that.

@2ck @antigravman

@maximilien You should talk to @lupyuen he is very active here and does IoT mostly.

@marathon this article is indirectly about me. :)

@timorl

Trump madd a literal coup attempt now? Literally the moment there was a hint of violence out of anyone Trump was on TV telling people to respect the law and go home. That would be a pretty ineffective response on his part if his intention was a coup.

Plus when Trump was elected we were on our third day of violence from democracy 3 days after the count was in and that continued on and off for 4 years. The levels of violence personally witnessed in those 4 years in my town alone were orders of magnitude worse than anything I saw at the capitol.

None of that excuses what happened at the capitol mind you. But in terms of extremes it really doesnt come close to liberals, and in terms of what it means about Trump, well, as I said he was very quick to publicly tell them to stop an go home the moment there was a hint of violence out of them so not even sure how that is Trumps fault rather than the fault of a small minority of republicans.

@2ck @antigravman

@biomedmax cant say I know of much. But @stevenroose lives in portugal and is fairly active on the fediverse. I would imagine he might have some suggestions for you.

@whitepaperkat A shame, most people are horrible at it happily.

@sillystring@infosec.exchange

> I mean look at the turn over. As a business person he is terrible.

I never said he was a good businessman or even a good president. He was horrible at both, Biden just happens to be far worse.

With that said he had a signficantly better impact on both the stock exchange and the unemployment rate than Biden's run as Vice President, right up until the coronavirus. But it would be foolish to compare a complete economic shutdown under Trump to any other period in time, the fallout from that is inevitable. Even so aside from doing much better than Biden pre-coronavirus his unemployment rate recovery after the bulk of the epidemic was at a higher rate than we have ever seen from any other economic crash in history.

Trump literally hit two records as president that havent been matched in the lifetime of anyone living: 1) he managed to get the unemployment rate to the lowest it has been in living history 2) he managed to see the fastest recovery of unemployment following an economic crash of any incident in history.

While I wouldnt say these two facts make him a good president, credit where credit is due, and there isnt much Biden has ever accomplished worthy of any praise, and a **lot** he has done horrifically wrong.

> Biden is superior by merely not instigating mayhem.

I wouldnt say that describes him or the democrats any more or less than Trump.

We certainly had some isolated cases of violence at teh capital, and that isn't acceptable, but trump was one of the very first people to get on the TV and tell them that violence was unacceptable.

Meanwhile I spent the bulk of the year watching democrat protests burn down buildings and cop cars in my city tot he point that the sky was black with smoke. I didnt see biden decrying those incidents or calling out the violence at all.

@SmilingTexan

@whitepaperkat Had to go back and see if this was the same scene from Stargate SG:1 urgo (the MALP image sent back)... it is not but its damn close.

@SmilingTexan yes but that doesnt mean I like Biden. He is as bad as Trump, in fact I'd say even worse.