🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@akeno

By the way notice the author of the paper you linked, Robert O Young who declares himself a doctor and PhD... he isnt a doctor, he isnt a PhD, he literally dropped out of the only accredited university he went to, he only got in on a tennis scholarship, and to add insult to injury is not only convicted of fraud but has espoused a ton of other completely idiotic Ideas.

Here is the wikipedia article on him along with a quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_O._Young

"Young's website states he attended the University of Utah on a tennis scholarship and studied biology and business in the early 1970s. He did not graduate.[9] He then performed missionary work for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for two years in London. Young, who is not a medical doctor, has received doctorates for naturopathy and nutrition from Clayton College of Natural Health (formerly American College of Holistic Nutrition), a defunct correspondence school which was not accredited by any agency recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.[10][11][1] The prosecution at his 2016 trial said his doctorate was purchased from a "diploma mill",[12] and it was pointed out that he had gone from a bachelor's to a doctor's degree in eight months.[9]"

@Coyote @madmike

@akeno

Linking to other wrong stupid people wont make you right, sorry.

@Coyote @madmike

@icedquinn

Generally even in america you would be, you are liable for what you say to a certain extent.

Thats why news organzations dont say "This thing is good for your health" (then they are liable).. they say "So and so says this is good for your health" (now mr so and so is liable).

@anon00110 @bandrew@noagendasocial.com @MountainJay

@Coyote

Right but what im saying is how hard of a blip you see is not a measure of the seriousness of the disease.

In 1993 we didnt undergo lockdown, significant social distancing, or mask wearing. During covid we did. Ergo even if they were exactly the same severity covid would show up as a smaller blip. So its not an objective measure of the lethality of the virus, only a measure of the consequences sweden faced for their particular way of handing the virus.

Also keep in mind while you can say "COVID is as bad as certain unusually lethal varients of the flu" and that would not be incorrect, you cant make the statement "COVID is as bad as the flu" which implies your talking about the common strain of the flu, and not new novel strains.

@akeno @madmike

@anon00110

I agree, if the media sells the vaccine as safe and hides the fact it skipped certain safety tests, and people get sick beyond the safety margins, then yes, they should be held responsible for hiding the risks.

@MountainJay @bandrew@noagendasocial.com

@akeno

Complete uneducated nonsense... for starters "isolated" doesnt mean jack shit because if you were to truely isolate the virus, as in all you have the virus and no plasma, or cell organels or anythjing else, the virus would fall apart into dust.

What we can do, and have done, is prove the virus is there, prove its exact genetic sequence, and even literally seen it under a microscope. We have also been able to prove the dna and the protein are what we were looking at by chromotographic and other techniques..

For all practical purposes it has been isolated, it just so happens there are a bunch of people out there who dont know the first clue about chemistry or biology who simply cant understand that and claim otherwise.

@Coyote @madmike

@akeno @madmike

@10grans tip @Coyote 0.001

@Coyote

The link you gave and associated image is just showing you **overall** deaths, and is limited specifically to sweden and no where.

You have to keep in mind first off it were as bad as the flu you wouldnt have that bump that is **twice** the natural background rate of **deaths** which is very significant when you talk about overall deaths. Next you also have to keep in mind you cant simply compare death tolls of diseases from 30 - 100+ years ago to now. Technology and medicine has advanced and we can handle diseases better now than before. But finally, sweden didnt have a lockdown but they did have strict social distancing and the general population was very mindful and did their part in that regard, something you didnt really see in past diseases.

So a direct comparison is very misleading, and even if you take that chart at face value it still suggests COVID ius many times worse than the common flu.

@akeno @madmike

@Coyote

I would almost agree with you but not to that extent.

First off we agree its real, and yea, you have to be clueless not to know the evidence shows its real.

As for how severe it is.. well its not the flu, it **is** worse than the flu. But its also not as bad as people and media will make you feel it is. Many worse diseases by many orders of magnitude have come and gone in the lifetime of the living generations.

If we had to put a number on it based on objective numbers and not "the sky is falling" nonsense I'd say its about 10x worse than the flu in terms of being more deadly by a reasonable but not huge margin, as well as being more capable of causing long term injury... 10x is a lot and enough to take it seriously.. but its not the end of the world either.

@akeno @madmike

@akeno

Scummo could have all the evidence in the world and not be able to collect. Anyone who pulls the conspiracy theory bullshit that covid doesnt exist and hasnt been proven to exist doesnt know the first thing about the science of any of it.

@madmike @Coyote

@icedquinn There is no such thing as VSCode.

@Pixificial probably because unlike other platforms likes/favorites dont mean or do anything. On facebook if you like something it will be prioritized more, so there is value. Moreover on facebook, unlike here, if you like something both the author and the people tagged/replied to are notified, here its just the author.

So overall favorites on fedi doesnt really offer any value, retoots do.

@MountainJay

Presuming that is the correct interpritation, then I agree with you. The main stream media or any other media should be allowed to decide for themselves what content they want to provide or not. However how liable are they for doing so.

If CNN says one day "drinking drain cleaner has been shown to be healthy and improve your lifespan", and people do it and get hurt, should they be able to sue? Likewise, when people stop vaccinating and we have worldwide pandemics resurging and billions in medical costs, would the mainstream media be able to be sued for false information?

While they should have the right to say whatever they want, they also need to be held liable for doing so. I think if you tell main stream media if they go preaching anti-vax nonsense in general (such as not to get your measles vaccines) then they should know that means they need to pay millions of dollars to all the people who get measles from watching the show. That alone would probably be the same (effectively) as not permitting the content on the show considering it would be a huge deterrent.

@bandrew@noagendasocial.com

@rlamacraft Every task has its tools.. I would never say one language is a good choice for everything. So if functional languages arent food for real-time apps but great for bulk-processing apps that no more unusual then any other language.. I wouldnt use python to do GPGPU programming or ruby to do an enterprise webapp either.

@rlamacraft I dont do enough functional programming to really make a good case, but i have done some, mostly in haskell. From what expiernce I do have, I agree, functional programming is much harder to make performant than OOP.. .on the flip side of that though is that functional programming is much easier to parallelized across multiple cores than OOP. For that reason it may be that at least on the backend, functional programming makes sense if your thinking in terms of scalability and over time may become the dominant technology.

@MountainJay

Of course they shouldnt. You should have freedom of speech to express your views, but no one should have to host idiotic views either. You want to rant about anti-vax conspiracies or whatever go on Alex jones or some place where the fruit loops gather, if someone wants to hear you they know where to find you.

@bandrew@noagendasocial.com

@lucifargundam yea thats prince phillip, dude could drop a beat!

@trinsec undead is just a subcategory of dead :)